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Laevinopteris seed fern with seeds


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Hi All,

 

So I recently got this slab with a Annularia and Laevinopteris

The seller claims that the bumps on the leaf surface are the seeds. Is this correct?

 

TBH I am not too fussed either way, as I would have probably bought this without this "feature". 

 

 

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I think it is spelt Laveineopteris rather than Laevinopteris.  Since Laveineopteris is a Pteridosperm, I believe it would produce seeds much larger, more like Trigonocarpus or Holcospermum.  I’m not 100% sure though.  The spots do look interesting, however.  I wonder if they could be Microconchids?

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Microconchids may be correct.  I see one that is not on/under the leaf.

 

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2 hours ago, Strepsodus said:

I think it is spelt Laveineopteris rather than Laevinopteris.  Since Laveineopteris is a Pteridosperm, I believe it would produce seeds much larger, more like Trigonocarpus or Holcospermum.  I’m not 100% sure though.  The spots do look interesting, however.  I wonder if they could be Microconchids?

Ah, that may be why nothing really came up when I did a Google search. 

 

Were the seeds borne on the leaves (as in modern day ferns) or specialised stalks (as in modern day flowering plants) ?

 

But it's still an interesting specimen then 

 

45 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Microconchids may be correct.  I see one that is not on/under the leaf.

 

Thanks for enlarging and pointing this one out 

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Laveine is probably France's premier expert on Paleozoic flora

Hence the name

 

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2 hours ago, Yoda said:

Ah, that may be why nothing really came up when I did a Google search. 

 

Were the seeds borne on the leaves (as in modern day ferns) or specialised stalks (as in modern day flowering plants) ?

 

But it's still an interesting specimen then 

 

Thanks for enlarging and pointing this one out 

Laveineopteris was a seed fern, so it would have had seeds that were on specialized parts rather than on the leaves. True ferns reproduce via spores that are located on the leaves

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8 hours ago, Yoda said:
3 hours ago, Yoda said:

But it's still an interesting specimen then

 

 

 

 

Yes indeed, it's a very nice specimen.  Thanks for sharing.

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14 minutes ago, paleoflor said:

Think the spiral structures are indeed microconchids, but I wouldn't be able to confidently assign the pinnule to Laveineopteris. What Laveineopteris species have such a basal lobe?

 

https://steurh.home.xs4all.nl/engdier/espirorb.html

It is more like the terminal pinnule of some Neuropteris species.

 

 

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