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Charleston, SC Shark tooth ID request


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Hey everyone,

 

I am new to the forum, but have been searching for and collecting shark teeth for years. 
 

I found this tooth earlier today, but didn’t know for sure what kind of shark it was. My first thought was a Great White but it is smaller than some of my other great white teeth I have found or seen. It does have serrated edges. Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance! 

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I also found this tooth today if anyone knows what kind of shark it came from as well. Thanks! 

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First one is probably Carcharocles angustidens, appears to be pathological which is awesome! Even more awesome, the second tooth appears to be Alopias grandis, the giant thresher! 

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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2 hours ago, Bails said:

Hey everyone,

 

I am new to the forum, but have been searching for and collecting shark teeth for years. 
 

I found this tooth earlier today, but didn’t know for sure what kind of shark it was. My first thought was a Great White but it is smaller than some of my other great white teeth I have found or seen. It does have serrated edges. Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance! 

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It has burlett and leads me to thinking a meg family. Great whites do not have burlett(the black part between the root and blade)

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If the first one is Carcharocles angustidens or of the Meg family how is it so small? A younger, juvenile shark? I guess I just always assumed all megatoothed sharks’ teeth had significant size. 

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Hi,

 

When we observe a current shark jaw, we can see that often the more lateral the teeth are the smaller they are. It depends on the species.
 
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8 hours ago, Bails said:

If the first one is Carcharocles angustidens or of the Meg family how is it so small? A younger, juvenile shark? I guess I just always assumed all megatoothed sharks’ teeth had significant size. 

Carcharocles goes from a few millimeters for juvenile symphyseal teeth all the way up to more than 7 inches for pliocene anteriors. Most meg teeth are 2 to 3 inches where I fossil hunt, it is rare to find large ones

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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Last one I promise. I also found this tooth right before I found the Giant Thresher. It looks similar but it has serrated edges. Thanks again everyone! 

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8 minutes ago, Bails said:

Last one I promise. I also found this tooth right before I found the Giant Thresher. It looks similar but it has serrated edges. Thanks again everyone! 

 

I think that this may be a Megalodon, Lets see what others think

 

 A small Meg below,

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Some Threshers have serrations, they are VERY rare.

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13 hours ago, Bails said:

Hey everyone,

 

I am new to the forum, but have been searching for and collecting shark teeth for years. 
 

I found this tooth earlier today, but didn’t know for sure what kind of shark it was. My first thought was a Great White but it is smaller than some of my other great white teeth I have found or seen. It does have serrated edges. Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance! 

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I agree meg or angie on this one, nice!

 

13 hours ago, Bails said:

I also found this tooth today if anyone knows what kind of shark it came from as well. Thanks! 

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this one is really cool, giant thresher shark tooth! Great find!!!

 

16 minutes ago, Bails said:

Last one I promise. I also found this tooth right before I found the Giant Thresher. It looks similar but it has serrated edges. Thanks again everyone! 

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i can’t tell if this one is a meg or thresher, either way great find!!

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29 minutes ago, Bails said:

Last one I promise. I also found this tooth right before I found the Giant Thresher. It looks similar but it has serrated edges. Thanks again everyone! 

Post as many as you want! Another Carcharocles. Really it’s hard to tell between them if you don’t have the sides, but Charleston is better known for C. angustidens.

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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21 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Some Threshers have serrations, they are VERY rare.

They recently got named, Alopias palatasi. Though partially serrate transitionals appear towards the beginning of the Miocene, completely serrated ones existed for an extremely short period of time (the Langhian). 

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“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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1 minute ago, Bails said:

 

If nobody minds me posting another, is this an extinct mako? 

 

Carcharodon hastalis, though sometimes called a Mako, it is really the unserrated precursor to Carcharodon carcharias, the great white shark.

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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23 minutes ago, Bails said:

And is the big one in this pic a Meg? All found in Charleston, SC. 

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Yeah, same with the lighter one below it.

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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49 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said:

They recently got named, Alopias palatasi. Though partially serrate transitionals appear towards the beginning of the Miocene, completely serrated ones existed for an extremely short period of time (the Langhian). 

That must be some of the reason that I am not finding very many in my middle to late Miocene locations. I have a very few without serrations, and the one example of a partially serrated Thresher that I saw was found by my friend.

Are both the transitionals and the completely serrateds, renamed?

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20 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Are both the transitionals and the completely serrateds, renamed?

The description of Alopias palatasi calls them early Alopias palatasi rather than naming them a separate species. The regular Alopias grandis seem to range from the late oligocene at least to the beginning of the late Miocene, though there are some possible (Anecdotal) examples persisting into the Pliocene.

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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17 hours ago, grahamguti said:

Where in Charleston exactly?

Go to the main page of this forum. Scroll down and near the bottom of the page you'll see the heading "Fossil Sites". Scroll down to USA. Select the state(s). Read. No one is going to give you exact locations until you have gained their trust. They will not tell you any location if they think you may go in and clean out the site completely and only for the sake of selling them for profit.

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19 hours ago, grahamguti said:

Where in Charleston exactly?

Graham, sir, I'm afraid you are not making a good initial impression on this forum.  You are coming across on various threads as someone who wants something just given to them without having to do the work that others have done to find their sites.  You are leaving others suspect of your motives/intentions.  Perhaps you should withdraw, recoup and come back later, if at all, and try again once you've put some work into the hobby yourself.  Your approach is wearing mighty thin.:shakehead:

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