Panthersfan87 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Good evening everyone, I recently did some fossil hunting in the Green Mill Run river in Greenville, NC. The water was pretty low - ankle/shin deep most of the time. I'm pretty new to fossil identification so figured you guys could help me out. Location: Green Mill Run, NC Date: July 2020 Excavation process: Shovel to river bed The first looks like a jaw with teeth indentations. It's about 1.9" (50mm) with brownish coloration. Additional photos below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Here's another view of fossil #1: Edited July 11, 2020 by Panthersfan87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 The second fossil I was curious about was this 2" (55cm) black fossil with variegated textures on both sides. I tried to get a good shot of the striations: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Another photo of fossil #2: Edited July 11, 2020 by Panthersfan87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This (#2) looks like a chimeroid mouth plate/jaw. Ratfish. 6 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I agree with @Fossildude19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 As do I. Excellent find! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 @Panthersfan87 that piece of Ratfish jaw is a nice and important find. Keep a hold if that one, it could be important to science. On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, FossilsAnonymous said: @Panthersfan87 that piece of Ratfish jaw is a nice and important find. Keep a hold if that one, it could be important to science. Why could it be important to science? I do agree it is a great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Familyroadtrip said: Why could it be important to science? I do agree it is a great find! You never know with Ratfish. However, Ratfish here may be more publicized than the Ratfish near me so it could not be at all. On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, FossilsAnonymous said: You never know with Ratfish. Would one from Ram in NJ be important to science? I am somewhat attached to mine, but it’s not my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Familyroadtrip said: Would one from Ram in NJ be important to science? I am somewhat attached to mine, but it’s not my favorite. Not my place to say. I’ve just heard some reference Ratfish as being important. Better to ask an expert rather than me. On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, FossilsAnonymous said: Not my place to say. I’ve just heard some reference Ratfish as being important. Better to ask an expert rather than me. I’m pretty sure that, the one from like Denmark, was because of the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I have been collecting GMR for 20 plus years. I have never seen a ratfish jaw from there. I do believe this is a very significant find. @Al Dente 2 Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I’ve never seen one from GMR. I find tiny fragments frequently from other sites in NC. Not sure why they are always broken up in NC but whole in other states, like NJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hi, On 11/07/2020 at 4:33 AM, Panthersfan87 said: The second fossil I was curious about was this 2" (55cm) black fossil with variegated textures on both sides. OK with ratfish. But 2" = 5,5 cm Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Thanks everyone for the feedback and identification. Amazing how you all can ID these bones given only a few pictures. I'm happy to help advance any scientific pursuits regarding the ratfish jaw. I've attached a few more photos with better lighting. (see photos a few posts down) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Nice piece! Are you donating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Also, I found this at GMR as well. Looks to be a whale bone but was curious what the line or 'trench' down the middle was. Maybe where a ligament or tendon was? It's about 6" (15.2cm) (See photos a couple posts down) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hi, @Panthersfan87 : 1 - What makes you say it’s a whale bone ? 2 - You should have started your own ID request Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Coco said: 2 - You should have started your own ID request Coco This was his ID request, initially. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Sorry, meant to add it's about 6" (15.24cm). I actually don't know it's a whale bone, just an amateur guess based on what others have found here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Oh so sorry ! Tim, would you coffect my message and delete this one please ? But if you don’t want to change anything, that’s fine by me, too. Sorry @Panthersfan87 Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Panthersfan87 said: Thanks everyone for the feedback and identification. Amazing how you all can ID these bones given only a few pictures. I'm happy to help advance any scientific pursuits regarding the ratfish jaw. I've attached a few more photos with better lighting. 2 hours ago, Panthersfan87 said: Also, I found this at GMR as well. Looks to be a whale bone but was curious what the line or 'trench' down the middle was. Maybe where a ligament or tendon was? @Panthersfan87 It would be nice if you uploaded your images to the Forum in these posts as you did in the beginning of the topic. Otherwise, they show up as broken links for many of us now. Thanks. 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthersfan87 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnJ said: @Panthersfan87 It would be nice if you uploaded your images to the Forum in these posts as you did in the beginning of the topic. Otherwise, they show up as broken links for many of us now. Thanks. Thanks, @JohnJ . Does this work better? (see attached) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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