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Neec

Hello all, I've been lurking here for about a month. I found something I can't identify for sure... I was told it looks like a fossilized turtle shell? I was wondering if anyone could provide me with any specifics.. thank you :)

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Darktooth

Welcome to the forum! Could you please take a pic from the top and bottom of the object? I will tag @frankh8147 @Trevor @The Jersey Devil who are member who fossilhunt N.J. regularly. They may know what this is. It looks interesting. Also what is the size of this object?

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Neec
17 hours ago, Darktooth said:

Welcome to the forum! Could you please take a pic from the top and bottom of the object? I will tag @frankh8147 @Trevor @The Jersey Devil who are member who fossilhunt N.J. regularly. They may know what this is. It looks interesting. Also what is the size of this object?

 

 

 

its about 4cm in length

 

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Neec

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The Jersey Devil

Could we have more photos especially of the side with the bumps? Also need a scale

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Neec
26 minutes ago, The Jersey Devil said:

Could we have more photos especially of the side with the bumps? Also need a scale

Yes, sorry I'm having some trouble getting good photos. I will post more tomorrow when I have access to sunlight and I will post next to a ruler!

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Grimlock

It's hard to tell, but it kind of looks like a partial glyptodont scute. 

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Neec
14 hours ago, The Jersey Devil said:

Could we have more photos especially of the side with the bumps? Also need a scale

 

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Neec

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The Jersey Devil
2 hours ago, Neec said:

 

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Interesting find. Never seen anything like that. Does it feel dense/mineralized?

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Neec
1 hour ago, The Jersey Devil said:


Interesting find. Never seen anything like that. Does it feel dense/mineralized?

Hmm. I wish I could give you a certain answer. I don't think I have enough experience to say.. sorry :/

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Carl

I, too, and pretty darned stumped. It sure looks like bone, but of what?? Was this found in the Cretaceous deposits?

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Neec
9 hours ago, Carl said:

I, too, and pretty darned stumped. It sure looks like bone, but of what?? Was this found in the Cretaceous deposits?

Yes, it was found in Ramanessin Brook! 

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Carl
10 minutes ago, Neec said:

Yes, it was found in Ramanessin Brook! 

Wow... Whatever that is it's very interesting and probably important.

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Neec
12 minutes ago, Carl said:

Wow... Whatever that is it's very interesting and probably important.

Maybe I will try to get it identified by a museum

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Carl
2 minutes ago, Neec said:

Maybe I will try to get it identified by a museum

I highly recommend seeing Dave Parris at the New Jersey State Museum.

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Darktooth

I agree with everyone else, this is a very interesting mystery. Please get this checked out.:look:

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Neec
10 hours ago, Darktooth said:

I agree with everyone else, this is a very interesting mystery. Please get this checked out.:look:

I will and I'll post an update once I have one!

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frankh8147

I would recommend showing it to the museum too but here is my best guess 

 

Plesiosaur verts have two holes on one side and one on the other. If it were broken right there and had some stream wear, it may look like your piece. I'm saying this because the texture just looks Plesi to me.

 

Again, I do recommend showing it to the museum in case it's something rarer!

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pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon

Really odd fossil... I too would be interested in finding out what this is. Though I agree with @frankh8147 in that the piece looks a lot like bone and the flat surface kind of reminds me of a plesiosaur vertebra as well, I think the inner vacuities of the fossil are too big and too linearly aligned to truly represent the inner texture of a plesiosaur bone. Below images show two halved plesiosaurid vertebrae for comparison. Seeing as the irregular overall shape of the fossil and the long, channel-like tubes running its length, however, my best guess would be plant-matter, fossilised wood - or something similar...

 

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non-remanié

My first instinct was plesiosaur, but then I convinced myself it was more complete of a bone.  Looking again after a few days, I think Frank is correct.  An unusual fracture and then subsequent abrasion make it into quite an unusual shape.  

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Carl

Frank's explanation is pretty darned good. 

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