Flowerpot Shale microfossils

[Darbi]

I am just wondering. Have anyone on here found microfossils from Flowerpot Shale/Formation? The age is Permian.

 

I dug up a few kilograms of micromatrix from this formation in Woodward county, Oklahoma a couple months ago. I'll be using this topic to post any finds as time goes: although it would take me several months or years to go through it completely, depending on how busy I am. I still have three other different micromatrices to go through. 

[Oxytropidoceras]

Consisting of redbeds deposited in a saline, arid environment,

the Flower-pot Shale does not sound promising. However, a 

person never knows unless he or she actually searchs the

residue of a sample for them.

 

Some papers about the Flower-pot Shale are:

 

Sweet, A.C., Soreghan, G.S., Sweet, D.E., Soreghan, M.J. and

Madden, A.S., 2013. Permian dust in Oklahoma: Source and 

origin for Middle Permian (Flowerpot-Blaine) redbeds in 

Western Tropical Pangaea. Sedimentary Geology, 284(285), pp.181-196.

 

Another link for same paper.

 

Lockwood, R.P., 1976. Geochemistry and petrology of some 

Oklahoma redbed copper occurrences. In Stratiform Copper 

Deposits of the Mid Continent Region, a Symposium (Vol. 77, p. 61).

 

Johnson, K.S., 1974. Permian copper shales of southwestern 

United States. Annales de la Société géologique de Belgique.

 

Another online PDF file of the same paper.

 

More related papers by Kenneth Johnson

 

USGS - Geologic Unit: Flower-pot - Citations for significant publications

 

Yours,

 

Paul H.

[hadrosauridae]

There is a large-ish reptile from the flower pot formation.  

[Darbi]

On 8/3/2020 at 11:36 AM, Oxytropidoceras said:

Consisting of redbeds deposited in a saline, arid environment,

the Flower-pot Shale does not sound promising. However, a 

person never knows unless he or she actually searchs the

residue of a sample for them.

 

Some papers about the Flower-pot Shale are:

 

Sweet, A.C., Soreghan, G.S., Sweet, D.E., Soreghan, M.J. and

Madden, A.S., 2013. Permian dust in Oklahoma: Source and 

origin for Middle Permian (Flowerpot-Blaine) redbeds in 

Western Tropical Pangaea. Sedimentary Geology, 284(285), pp.181-196.

 

Another link for same paper.

 

Lockwood, R.P., 1976. Geochemistry and petrology of some 

Oklahoma redbed copper occurrences. In Stratiform Copper 

Deposits of the Mid Continent Region, a Symposium (Vol. 77, p. 61).

 

Johnson, K.S., 1974. Permian copper shales of southwestern 

United States. Annales de la Société géologique de Belgique.

 

Another online PDF file of the same paper.

 

More related papers by Kenneth Johnson

 

USGS - Geologic Unit: Flower-pot - Citations for significant publications

 

Yours,

 

Paul H.

I was visiting north central Oklahoma and Enid area for different reasons and I was not planning on the fossil hunt. It was more like on the spur of the moment for gathering the micromatrix. I searched on the internet for more information on the formations and fossils of this locality after I got home; that's when I realized I probably won't find any microfossils. Although it won't hurt to try! Thank you for the papers, I will read it when I have time. 

On 8/3/2020 at 11:59 AM, hadrosauridae said:

There is a large-ish reptile from the flower pot formation.  

I have heard about it but I don't remember what reptile.  Dimetrodon? I'll have to look it up again.

[hadrosauridae]

57 minutes ago, Darbi said:

I was visiting north central Oklahoma and Enid area for different reasons and I was not planning on the fossil hunt. It was more like on the spur of the moment for gathering the micromatrix. I searched on the internet for more information on the formations and fossils of this locality after I got home; that's when I realized I probably won't find any microfossils. Although it won't hurt to try! Thank you for the papers, I will read it when I have time. 

I have heard about it but I don't remember what reptile.  Dimetrodon? I'll have to look it up again.

 

No, it wasnt Dimetrodon.  I cant remember the species, but it was like tiny headed, fat-bodied lizard.  Kind of a weird looking animal.  I read about it being found in an roadcut farther south, but I havent done any searching in that area.

[jdp]

Vertebrates are rare but yes, they do exist. Mostly they're synspsids, either the large herbivorous caseids (Caseopsis, Cotylorhynchus, Angelosaurus) or Dimetrodon angelensis. There's also a captorhinid (Rothianiscus) and a recumbirostran (Cymatorhiza). The caseids are what hadrosauridae is thinking of.

 

If you do turn up some bone, I'd be very interested in seeing it; the Flowerpot is really poorly known and any fossils could really help us sort out some important problems in early terrestrial vertebrate fauna evolution.

[Darbi]

On 8/5/2020 at 11:29 PM, jdp said:

If you do turn up some bone, I'd be very interested in seeing it; the Flowerpot is really poorly known and any fossils could really help us sort out some important problems in early terrestrial vertebrate fauna evolution.

Are you a paleontologist? If I find any, I'll let you know!

[jdp]

I am!

[Oxytropidoceras]

On 8/3/2020 at 11:59 AM, hadrosauridae said:

"There is a large-ish reptile from the flower pot formation."

 

I recently came across this paper, while looking for something else.

 

Olson, E.C. and Barghusen, H., 1962. Part I.-Vertebrates 

from the Flowerpot Formation, Permian of Oklahoma. in 

Permian vertebrates from Oklahoma and Texas (Vol. 2).

University of Oklahoma.

 

Another version of Olson and Barghusen (1962), PDF file

 

Another publication about the flowerpot Formation is:

 

Wilson, L.R., 1962. Permian plant microfossils from 

the Flowerpot Formation, Greer Country, Oklahoma. 

Oklahoma Geological Survey, Circular, 49, pp.1-50.

 

Both links came out of Oklahoma Geological Survey Publications on Fossils

 

Yours,

 

Paul H.

[Mark Kmiecik]

On 8/3/2020 at 11:59 AM, hadrosauridae said:

There is a large-ish reptile from the flower pot formation.  

Not likely to be hiding in micromatrix, methinks!