bethstucky Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Hi everyone! My son found this at the Gardiner boat ramp beach (a very rocky beach) near Sequim, Washington on the Olympic Peninsula. From a quick google search he thinks it might be horn coral. What do you think? And can he sell it for $799.99 and earn enough money to buy the LEGO UCS Millennium Falcon? Whole rock is about 70mm across. Please let me know if you have any other questions that would help you hazard a guess. Thank you so much! Beth Stucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bethstucky said: And can he sell it for $799.99 and earn enough money to buy the LEGO UCS Millennium Falcon? Not quite. Hello, Beth and son, and a very warm welcome to TFF from Morocco. I think it's a crinoid columnal and there are others in the piece, too. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleostoric Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Hi, welcome to the forum. That circular mass in the middle kind of reminds me of an echinoid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I agree with crinoid columnal. He will be old enough to push the lawn mower soon. No monetary windfall here I'm afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 #1 for crinoid columnal. 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Can we get pictures of all the other sides? Also what is the size of this item? I am hesitant to call this a crinoid columnal, as the usual ornamentation is not present. The geology of the stated area does not coincide with paleozoic fossils being found. (Although, it could be a glacial erratic). Given the area it was found, I'm not even positive this is a fossil. 4 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: I am hesitant to call this a crinoid columnal, as the usual ornamentation is not present. The geology of the stated area does not coincide with paleozoic fossils being found. (Although, it could be a glacial erratic). Given the area it was found, I'm not even positive this is a fossil. The OP states the whole rock is 7 cm across. Many crinoid columnals are synostosial, meaning they exhibit no articulation facets. And the surface may be slightly rounded, as in some Glyptocrinus. Crinoids are not limited to the paleozoic, though this looks paleozoic to me, but I don't know the area. However, you may be right, you usually are. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Tidgy's Dad said: The OP states the whole rock is 7 cm across. Thanks Adam, I totally missed the measurement stated. I could be wrong, as well. The matrix looks metamorphic to me, but, I am wrong as often if not more than I am right. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said: Thanks Adam, I totally missed the measurement stated. I could be wrong, as well. The matrix looks metamorphic to me, but, I am wrong as often if not more than I am right. Me too. Though it is by the exchange of thoughts, both correct and not so, that this forum usually finds the solution. Anyway, to by blurred eyesight this looks like a piece of worn crinoidal limestone. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Nice illustration ! Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Coco said: Nice illustration ! Coco That was made by our own @Brett Breakin' Rocks 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I had assumed it this way and that’s why I congratulated you! It replaces the previous hand-drawn drawing. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Coco said: Nice illustration ! Coco Ditto!!!, I will be saving and using it in the future !!! Great idea @Brett Breakin' Rocks The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Russell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I wish I had access to some examples, but to me they look more like sponges I’ve found in Silurian aged sediment, or even holdfasts. But I digress. I’m just a novice. Finding my way through life; one fossil at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethstucky Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Thank you so much everyone! This is really great. I'll post some more photos though they probably still aren't the best quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tidgy's Dad Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Twist. Bits of brachiopod as well? Though I do tend to imagine brachipods. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Can we get pictures of all the other sides? Although this is neater than a hand drawing, I am having a hard time understanding the directions. If we are looking at an angled front view of the ammonite with a readable scale, how come “left” is on the right? Also, it appears that the whole ammonite is backlit by the window and both lights, not a good lighting situation. Tim’s drawing also has the right and left turned around. Although the electric light does light up the front of the fossil/cube. Help @Brett Breakin' Rocksand @Fossildude19 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 @DPS Ammonite The diagram was meant as a guideline for taking pictures. Not an exact "How To". If new members would read the How to Get Your Item Identified topic, everything is explained there. This is just meant to give people the idea that they should take photos in good lighting, either natural or artificial. They should consider their item a cube, and take pictures of all 6 sides, so we get an overall idea of the shape of the item. They should include a scale of some sort, and also not take pictures of their item on funky, multicolored throw blankets or speckled counter tops. That said, I think it is a vast improvement on my hastily made sketch a year or so ago. OLD NEW You can lead a horse to water, ... but you can't make it drink. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I see an obliquely sectioned crinoid stem segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, DPS Ammonite said: Help @Brett Breakin' Rocksand @Fossildude19 Haha .. it's ok. An existential crisis at this point in history is completely allowed. I was always charmed by Tim's drawing so I wanted to replace (with kindness) but not destroy the original feeling of the artwork. To that end there probably could be 2-3 additional images/diagrams .. one each for natural light (not direct sun) and artificail light using a nice 3-point lighting setup. etc.. As for the orientation I think I was following Tim's lead. If you are the ammonite (be the ammonite @DPS !!) and you are facing 'camera (the web viewer)' your right side will be screen left and your left side will be screen right. Of course all of these terms are not quite one that we use to describe .. say the faces of a shark tooth. As an novice it is enough .. hopefully to get us what we want. Later,you can look back .. now as a seasoned veteran, and chuckle at your poor photography skills. Having now mastered the air scribe AND macro-photography AND creek sifting AND categorizing your shark teeth according to chronospecies . TFF at it's best ! Refined indeed ... PS. Sorry @bethstucky not to hijack your wonderful fossil find. Welcome to the club ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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