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I found this tooth in a bucket of matrix yesterday. It has the hint of cusplets on each shoulder and this kind of throws me. I have my own impression of the I.D. of this tooth but am looking for other opinions. I have thousands of Lee Creek teeth in my collection and have gone through countless gallons of matrix, but this tooth just looks odd to me. Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

 

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Im not an expert either but to me I feel like C.acutissima is too narrow for this tooth. To me it looks like an otodus. The first one is C.acutissima, and the second otodus,

image.jpeg.09022e7fde177598e7c840240d9ef54a.jpegOtodus Shark Teeth

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41 minutes ago, Ludwigia said:

I'm by far no expert on this subject, but I think I'm seeing a Carcharias, perhaps C.acutissima?

A posterior or even possibly one of the rear laterals is a possibility.

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14 minutes ago, Top Trilo said:

Im not an expert either but to me I feel like C.acutissima is too narrow for this tooth. To me it looks like an otodus. The first one is C.acutissima, and the second otodus,

image.jpeg.09022e7fde177598e7c840240d9ef54a.jpegOtodus Shark Teeth

No Otodus at Lee Creek. The sediments are to young. The other teeth you have pictures could be C. accutisma anterior teeth or even other Carcharias species, possibly even Odontaspis. 

 

EDIT: Let me clarify my Otodus remark. The tooth you have pictured as Otodus is a tooth that is much older than what is found at Lee Creek. However megalodons and chubutensis are found there. I refer to them as Carcharocles, however they have been classified as from the Otodus lineage. Some refer to them as Otodus megalodon, so as such there are Otodus found at Lee Creek. 

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O.K thanks for clearing that up.

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Hi Don First I hope you are doing well. Don it looks like a lower left lateral (L4 or L5) juvenile hastails to me. Take Care George 

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19 hours ago, bthemoose said:

Carcharodon hastalis perhaps? See this one I posted recently with even more pronounced cusplets:

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Darktooth said:

Looks like a mako to me. 

Escheri?

Thanks for the input guys.  My gut tells me hastalis.

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12 hours ago, powelli1 said:

Hi Don First I hope you are doing well. Don it looks like a lower left lateral (L4 or L5) juvenile hastails to me. Take Care George 

Hi George I am well, hope you are too. Was great bumping into you the other day at wally world and being able to talk for a bit while we were in line. 

My gut did tell me hastalis, but I was not sure. 

Take care and see you soon young man.

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