FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 So I've been meaning to put up a couple threads on this forum for a while now. I am really psyched about figuring this one out because i'm hoping its a {terosaur tooth! Its hard to Id because of a tip fracture, its hard to tell if its just a bone or what. Also I want to get this "coral" quartz rock ID'd and it is tied to another thread i'm making. Link here; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I don't know about the tooth but there are many possibilities that I'm sure someone else will be able to ID, it could be a pterosaur tooth or an enchodus tooth maybe. And the "coral" is cool but I don't know what it is. Nice Finds. “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Probably a worn sawfish rostral denticle/tooth. The other item doesn't look like a coral, to me. Looks a bit like tufa. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Probably a worn sawfish rostral denticle/tooth. The other item doesn't look like a coral, to me. Looks a bit like tufa. Hmm so how positive it is not a pterosaur and what gives it away. I found this image on google to compare to. And also the curve is what made me a firm believer. The curve of pterosaur really matches this one. Heres a pic and another one to compare the curve dt4_048nn__37813.1432075248.webp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Unfortunately, there aren’t any pterosaurs in big brook, and if I’m not wrong there aren’t any pterosaurs in NJ at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 I dont know why the one picture is always coming up as a link as its saved from my computer but hopefully its not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Familyroadtrip said: Unfortunately, there aren’t any pterosaurs in big brook, and if I’m not wrong there aren’t any pterosaurs in NJ at all. Oh, well that is unfortunate. I thought recently there wasnt anything other then the mososaur but I remember reading on the forum or something about a plesiosaur tooth in big brook. But I guess thats still marine and unlikely but hey to be fair a pterosaur can be flying over NJ lol Oh well case closed but man does it look like one. I will chalk it up to a bone or sawfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I would personally lean towards fish spine because of that indent on one side - here is one of mine from Big Brook. It could be a different bone also, I've seen others with that indent. Now, just because Pterosaur hasn't been found in New Jersey doesn't mean it can't happen. We find species new to New Jersey (and to the world for that matter) from time to time so it's possible! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, frankh8147 said: I would personally lean towards fish spine because of that indent on one side - here is one of mine from Big Brook. It could be a different bone also, I've seen others with that indent. Now, just because Pterosaur hasn't been found in New Jersey doesn't mean it can't happen. We find species new to New Jersey (and to the world for that matter) from time to time so it's possible! Wow! Would never guess thats a fish spine with the vertical lineations. To compare to the first picture I feel I have something similiar in my unid pile. Think mine is just some iron or concretion or something though. But maybe the the "pterosaur" tooth could be a fish spine. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, FossilizedJello said: Oh, well that is unfortunate. I thought recently there wasnt anything other then the mososaur but I remember reading on the forum or something about a plesiosaur tooth in big brook. But I guess thats still marine and unlikely but hey to be fair a pterosaur can be flying over NJ lol Oh well case closed but man does it look like one. I will chalk it up to a bone or sawfish. And yes, Plesiosaur can be found in New Jersey. Here is my recent one.. there are thousands of species you can find in the New Jersey Cretaceous! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, frankh8147 said: And yes, Plesiosaur can be found in New Jersey. Here is my recent one.. there are thousands of species you can find in the New Jersey Cretaceous! OMG lol very nice..latest one??? How often do you go to have all these rare finds! Thats amazing. Im super jealous. My best is between my larger crow or goblins, arrowheads and my one mososaur but nothing that crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, FossilizedJello said: I dont know why the one picture is always coming up as a link as its saved from my computer but hopefully its not an issue. The file type ( .webp ) doesn't work with the Forum's software. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 You probably have some type of pectoral fish spine, maybe Enchodus sp. or Xiphactinus sp. at least according to @non-remanié, whose identification of my fossil is what I am basing this off of. Here is mine: 4 : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 2:15 PM, FossilizedJello said: OMG lol very nice..latest one??? How often do you go to have all these rare finds! Thats amazing. Im super jealous. My best is between my larger crow or goblins, arrowheads and my one mososaur but nothing that crazy! I probably should have added, it's also the best Plesi tooth I have ever found, by far! On 9/18/2020 at 3:49 PM, Trevor said: You probably have some type of pectoral fish spine, maybe Enchodus sp. or Xiphactinus sp. at least according to @non-remanié, whose identification of my fossil is what I am basing this off of. Here is mine: Exactly what I was thinking. I don't want to exclude other possibilities based on the stream-wear of it but really looks good for fish spine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilizedJello Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 2:29 PM, Fossildude19 said: The file type ( .webp ) doesn't work with the Forum's software. Hmm, I couldnt get it to save on my comp as a .jpg either. On 9/18/2020 at 3:49 PM, Trevor said: You probably have some type of pectoral fish spine, maybe Enchodus sp. or Xiphactinus sp. at least according to @non-remanié, whose identification of my fossil is what I am basing this off of. Here is mine: Oh yeah this looks absolutely similar! It even has those parallel lines running down the middle. Thanks everyone <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jno Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, FossilizedJello said: Hmm, I couldnt get it to save on my comp as a .jpg either. Oh yeah this looks absolutely similar! It even has those parallel lines running down the middle. Thanks everyone <3 https://cloudconvert.com/webp-to-png provides an easy file conversion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoNoel Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I agree with @frankh8147 that it's probably a fish spine. As far as I know there have not been any pterosaur remains found in New Jersey, but that doesn't mean they weren't there. Azdharchids at the end of the Cretaceous were quite diverse and likely had the ability to travel great distances due to their size. Several genera were present in the Ouled Abdoun beds in Morocco. As for toothed pterosaurs, I believe most if not all were extinct by the late cretaceous. *Edit* According to the PaleoBiology Database Navigator there have been some remains atttributed to "Titanopteryx" (Arambourgiania) found in Atlantic Highlands, with a reference to W. B. Gallagher. 1984. Paleoecology of the Delaware Valley region. Part II: Cretaceous to Quartenary. The Mosasaur 2:9-43 so finding a fragmentary piece of pterosaur in NJ is not out of the question. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I believe pterosaur material has been found in NJ and is in MAPS. I agree with fish spine. Hey Frank, do you possibly have any more pictures of different angles of that second specimen? On 9/18/2020 at 1:59 PM, frankh8147 said: I would personally lean towards fish spine because of that indent on one side - here is one of mine from Big Brook. It could be a different bone also, I've seen others with that indent. Now, just because Pterosaur hasn't been found in New Jersey doesn't mean it can't happen. We find species new to New Jersey (and to the world for that matter) from time to time so it's possible! 2 “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 @The Jersey Devil Here you go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 7:20 AM, frankh8147 said: @The Jersey Devil Here you go! That’s really neat. That first pic below looked so much like an Enchodus tooth for some reason that I thought they were 2 different specimens haha. 2 “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokietech96 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 2:11 PM, frankh8147 said: And yes, Plesiosaur can be found in New Jersey. Here is my recent one.. there are thousands of species you can find in the New Jersey Cretaceous! I remember when you first posted your find. Still amazed how pristine the tooth is! So awesome ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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