Zenmaster6 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Found in landscaping bed in south Texas I think it could be a solitary coral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Me too. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Someone good with septal insertion patterns should be able it pin it down well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Rockwood said: Someone good with septal insertion patterns should be able it pin it down well. And just who might that be? (can we tag them?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Not sure, I was hoping for volunteers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 @HansTheLoser 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 A volunteer to tag will do just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Rockwood said: A volunteer to tag will do just fine. Hey, youre about to hit 3000! Congrats on being here so long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Well, I'll go one closer and speculate that this is on the upper side of the Permian, making it a scleractinian coral. It sometimes help in getting the natives restless. (especially if it's wrong ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Also, maybe photos with your piece dry would help. 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansTheLoser Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Merci ma chère amie pour la invitation. It is indeed a coral, but rather worn out to be able to say anything. BTW, Scleractinian-like corals were occasionally indicated in the Paleozoic (papers by Scrutton and Ezaki). We know that scleractinian corals evolved from anemones, but with success finally in the mid Triassic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, HansTheLoser said: Merci ma chère amie pour la invitation. It is indeed a coral, but rather worn out to be able to say anything. BTW, Scleractinian-like corals were occasionally indicated in the Paleozoic (papers by Scrutton and Ezaki). We know that scleractinian corals evolved from anemones, but with success finally in the mid Triassic. Je t'en prie. I've learned tonight that scleractinians evolved from anemones. We learn everyday on that wonderful forum. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyo Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Rockwood said: Well, I'll go one closer and speculate that this is on the upper side of the Permian, making it a scleractinian coral. It sometimes help in getting the natives restless. (especially if it's wrong ) I volunteer. Perhaps he will look at the geological chart of the landscaping bed to see if we can get any information about the specimen's stratigraphy from there. This would certainly help us. Thus we would not have to speculate and the natives would be calm. You make me envy. To catch corals I have to go into a ravine and you collect them in the garden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Hi Oyo, thank you for your help. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Is that possibly a worm tube obscuring the center as shown in the last photo ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyo Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, fifbrindacier said: Hi Oyo, thank you for your help. Hi, not at all. 1 hour ago, Rockwood said: Is that possibly a worm tube obscuring the center as shown in the last photo ? Yes, there is something there but I don't know what it´s. He could try to remove it by sanding that area until whatever is there is gone. Surely, it seems to be well preserved, it would show the central area of the coral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, oyo said: He could try to remove it by sanding that area until whatever is there is gone. Surely, it seems to be well preserved, it would show the central area of the coral. Who cares what kind of coral it is ? What is the other thing ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Rockwood said: Who cares what kind of coral it is ? What is the other thing ? Who cares what the other thing it is?. Personally it seems to me that it is just a piece of stuff stuck to a coral, I hadn't even noticed it. But keep in mind that nobody´s perfect, neither am I. I´m aware that almost no one is interested in corals, just a select group of people who are on another level. Make no mistake, I did not say higher level I said another level. Unspecific. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Diversity of interest is a wonderful thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 @Rockwood @oyo @fifbrindacier @HansTheLoser Hopefully this helps. In real life the tube in the center looks very well preserved. I am finding loads of petrified wood so its gotta be somewhat near shore. cant be pre triassic. I wanna say cretaceous as the majority of sediment in Texas seems to be cretaceous. I live in Corpus Christi *pleistocene wash* though, which is why I find landscaping rocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I have to change my opinion. I now think the tube is actually remnant of dissepiment in a rugose horn coral. The indication also being that it was bilateral (to the degree that is typical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyo Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 21/9/2020 at 10:22 AM, Rockwood said: Diversity of interest is a wonderful thing. Diversity of opinion also is a wonderful thing. The specimen may be somewhat older than Pleistocene but less than what Mr Rockwood proposes. Scleractinia for me. One question to the owner: height of the specimen and diameter of the chalice?, in mms. please. I apologize for not being familiar with the size of the coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I agree, the coins are not at all a good scale. Centimeters or inches are better. 1inch = 2.5 cm. The fingers of our friend give us an approximative idea of its size, but for the determination of a coral a precise measurement is needed. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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