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This is black shale from southern Grundy County, Illinois from a private rec club found in the spoils hills throughout the club.  I have found a few listracanthus spines and numerous bivalves from this area.  I am unsure as to what these structures are but thinking a type of mollusk or ammonite.  Pics 1-3 is one fossil and pics 4 and 5 is another fossil.  

 

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That cephalopod sure stands out against the black matrix!!!!! Nice find. Out of curiosity, how did the name @bluegilldvm come to be? A veterinarian that likes to fish?

  

Mike

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@minnbuckeye - I’m veterinarian that studied fish medicine. Grew up catching mainly bluegills, so they are my favorite fish. Unfortunately I don’t fish too much anymore. Too much time working and looking for fossils. 
 

@ClearLake- Thanks for the ID!!!!

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1 minute ago, bluegilldvm said:

Unfortunately I don’t fish too much anymore

Well then, you must be a distant cousin and not my twin!!

 Actually, the last 2 years of my veterinary career, in addition to maintaining my practice, I became the veterinarian for the Minnesota State Trout Hatcheries. ALL  my knowledge of fish medicine was learned from this experience. Hopefully we will continue to see your finds!

  

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15 hours ago, RCFossils said:

Pseudorthoceras socialis

 

Do you mean Isorthoceras sociale ? 

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1 hour ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Do you mean Isorthoceras sociale ? 

 

Isorthoceras is Ordovician.  Pseudorthoceras is found in the Carboniferous.

 

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1 hour ago, piranha said:

 

Isorthoceras is Ordovician.  Pseudorthoceras is found in the Carboniferous.

 

Yes, I know. Though I think Pseudorthoceras is Permian as well.

I just don't know of the species Pseudorthoceras socialis and am interested in knowing more. 

I wondered if he's mixed up a couple of species. 

Like i do, as you know! 

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And there are also records of Pseudorthoceras from the Devonian, but it is primarily found in the Carboniferous.

 

The OP mentioned that Listracanthus is found in the same area so logically we can exclude an Ordovician taxon.

 

 

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2 hours ago, piranha said:

And there are also records of Pseudorthoceras from the Devonian, but it is primarily found in the Carboniferous.

 

The OP mentioned that Listracanthus is found in the same area so logically we can exclude an Ordovician taxon.

 

 

I am happy to agree. 

All I am asking for is info on the species Pseudorthoceras socialis as it is a new one for me. 

Can you help? 

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1 hour ago, piranha said:

I don't spend a lot of time on cephalopods, but at first glance it does not appear to be a valid name combination.

Thanks. :)

Which is why I was suggesting maybe @RCFossils had mixed up a couple of names.

Like I do with Flexicalymene. :DOH:

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