Top Trilo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Darbi said: It's just that you are so knowledgeable on theropods that I suspected you are a paleontologist. Agreed if @Troodon doesn't know a theropod identification chances are no one does. 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Darbi said: It's just that you are so knowledgeable on theropods that I suspected you are a paleontologist. Thanks. Well I know more that some collectors but paleontologists are the real experts and my limited knowledge comes from what they publish. Read alot and have a good library of references 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilsonwheels Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Fantastic trip report Frank. You found some really cool fossils and the pictures of the environment are just awesome. We have a very limited number of Pronghorn in California but I have been able to see them a few times including a "lost herd" in the valley where I live. Yellow-bellied Racers are one of my favorite snakes. I enjoyed reading the entire post !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixpaleosky Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 i edited my message when you replied so you probably didnt see all my questions:) Are the bones aligned by a paleo current ? And do you find different size/type of fossils depending on the layer or they are all mixed up ? In the same layer do you find different fossil preservation/quality, and if yes what could explain it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Troodon said: Thanks. Well I know more that some collectors but paleontologists are the real experts and my limited knowledge comes from what they publish. Read alot and have a good library of references I AM a paleontologist, and I collect a lot of late Cretaceous dinosaurs, (just like the stuff troodon has showed us here) but troodon has done his homework much more than I have. I rely on his identifications, esp of theropod teeth. Thanks, Frank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 hours ago, jpc said: I AM a paleontologist, and I collect a lot of late Cretaceous dinosaurs, (just like the stuff troodon has showed us here) but troodon has done his homework much more than I have. I rely on his identifications, esp of theropod teeth. Thanks, Frank. Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jort68 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 This is unreal, I'm speechless.. can't wait to see what comes of it (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieira Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Amazing. Fantastic report. Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/5/2020 at 12:32 PM, fossilsonwheels said: Fantastic trip report Frank. You found some really cool fossils and the pictures of the environment are just awesome. We have a very limited number of Pronghorn in California but I have been able to see them a few times including a "lost herd" in the valley where I live. Yellow-bellied Racers are one of my favorite snakes. I enjoyed reading the entire post !! thanks On 10/5/2020 at 8:49 PM, jort68 said: This is unreal, I'm speechless.. can't wait to see what comes of it (: thanks On 10/5/2020 at 1:14 PM, Pixpaleosky said: i edited my message when you replied so you probably didnt see all my questions:) Are the bones aligned by a paleo current ? And do you find different size/type of fossils depending on the layer or they are all mixed up ? In the same layer do you find different fossil preservation/quality, and if yes what could explain it ? In the Hadrosaur bonebed we find only that material occasionally some other type of teeth including croc, small theropod but the bones are all hadro. A very monospecific bonebed. The preservation is very mixed you can have a concreted bone next to one that is punky next to one that is beautiful. Guess its just how it was preserved very random. The deposit is about + 1 meter and there are different layers: gravel, clay and sand but that varies throughout the site.. Bone completeness is also a mixed bag 50% may be perfect others just partials, very random indicating a very turbulent ride in the river before deposition . The bones lay is all different directions vertically to horizontally no pattern again very random. So its a very random site, remember the river that carried these bones to their current position was full of twists, turns and currents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Oops forgot I had one more box to open up and here are a few goodies that I cleaned up Hadrosaur hands had bones with a variety of shapes here are a few Carpals a pair of adult bones Some juvie carpals 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 More hadro teeth From Montana a tyrannosaurid tooth. Need to clean up the base to try to determine if its Trex or Nano, Nice size A piece of dentary showing the tooth rows 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Found lots of Vertebrae here are a few more This one is a small distal caudal that is interesting. Pulled it out with all the matrix on the processes so that I would not loose or damage any of them. The neural spine is fairly complete just missing the rounded edge. When I started removing the matrix the left zygapophysis was missing. The photo shows the right one (arrow). However after I cleaned it, needs more, I did not see a broken edge, in fact under a scope looked rounded. So not sure what going on here. Needs more study. Here are a few more verts and finger bone that need prepping I find lots of centrums and the occasional neural spine like this big one 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixpaleosky Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Thank you for the taphonomic explanations ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 This trip would be a dream-come-true for many of us, I would think! Thank you for taking us along so we could experience some of the thrill of the hunt, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Monica said: This trip would be a dream-come-true for many of us, I would think! Thank you for taking us along so we could experience some of the thrill of the hunt, too. Thanks, I feel very fortunate to be able to do this and its nice to be able to share some of this experience 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgdls Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 You, sir are a credit to amateur palaeontologists the world over. Your finds and posts are the stuff of dreams and the detailed information and photos are second to none. I can only gaze in amazement and learn. I look forward to much more in the future. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 My Prep person just sent me photos of the Anzu wyliei hand claw that she just finished - Its 4 inches long on a straight line Edmontosaurus skull element : Jugal 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 More Edmontosaurus bones that are finished Three Toe bones that are finished Two skull elements that need to be identified 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Maybe angular (from the lower jaw) for the second mystery bone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, jpc said: Maybe angular (from the lower jaw) for the second mystery bone. Yea thats a good call..looks pretty close thanks ..so many bones and these skulls grow longer with age so the bones change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Troodon said: Two skull elements that need to be identified I'm thinking probably prefrontal or surangular for the first one and premaxilla anterior margin for the second one. So that would be the rim of the actual duck-bill. Saurolophus prefrontal. Great finds! 2 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Appreciate your input. Thanks Lost on the second one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Troodon said: Appreciate your input. Thanks Lost on the second one 1 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjfriend Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 2:17 PM, Troodon said: I chucked a small piece of matrix in my collecting box with a tiny bone on it that I could not see very well. Very surprised when I put it under a scope. Looks like a vert process or complete vert ? Mystery bone or alien spaceship . Love the whole thread! Great report for as Monica said "dream-come-true for most of us"! Not a collector of dino bones but have always wanted to help on a dig (and maybe have a self collected piece) Did you ever figure this little one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: Thanks oh got it. Interesting one of the guys collecting with me got all excited because he had a similar ID since this skull element is very rare at our site, only 1 other had come out in 25 years. I just was not sure. I'm happy appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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