LabRatKing Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 For your viewing pleasure. Discovered by accident while disinfection testing in my lab: Guess I’ll start taking my UV flashlight into the field with me even in non-scorpion areas! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norki Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Nice. Seems these UV lights reveal a lot of interesting surprises, I'll have to see about getting one... By the way, what function does the UV light play in relation to scorpions? Does it help to reveal them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Wow that's cool how it glows a bright yellow. 1 minute ago, Norki said: Nice. Seems these UV lights reveal a lot of interesting surprises, I'll have to see about getting one... By the way, what function does the UV light play in relation to scorpions? Does it help to reveal them? Scorpions are fluorescent 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRatKing Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, Norki said: Nice. Seems these UV lights reveal a lot of interesting surprises, I'll have to see about getting one... By the way, what function does the UV light play in relation to scorpions? Does it help to reveal them? Yes, scorpions glow under UV as do many minerals, when I'm out in Utah and other desert places, I alwys take one along as it is a lot of fun chasing scorpions in the dark.. Calcite is common in some fossils, so it gives glows like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norki Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Neat, the more you know. All the more reason to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Oreodonts are known to be dedicated users of fluoride toothpaste! 6 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I wonder if this fluorescence could be used to search for oreodont fossils in the field. Of course that would mean stumbling around after dark, which might not be completely wise. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRatKing Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said: I wonder if this fluorescence could be used to search for oreodont fossils in the field. Of course that would mean stumbling around after dark, which might not be completely wise. Don I'm sure it would, however one wouldn't need to be in full darkness. They make safety glasses that enhance fluorescence for things like leak detection. Doesn't work well in full glaring sunlight, but it is pretty handy. Was able to see these glowing in a well lit, full spectrum LED illuminated lab. In roughly daylight conditions they were still pretty visible. I'm going to break out the lab grade UV shortly and try this again. (Photos were taken with iPhone 11, no filters or software) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: I wonder if this fluorescence could be used to search for oreodont fossils in the field. Of course that would mean stumbling around after dark, which might not be completely wise. Don Yes! As I’ve stated in previous posts about fossil fluorescence I used to know a collector who when he was fossil hunting he would take a u.v. Flashlight with him and scout likely locations after dark and mark the glows for the next days digging. He increased his finds quite a bit. I personally never got to go with him though. A lot of white river fossil teeth glow under uv. I’ve got a messohippus partial that it’s teeth also glow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, LabRatKing said: Guess I’ll start taking my UV flashlight into the field with me even in non-scorpion areas! Yup, UV is great for finding scorpions. And while you're in scorpion filled areas you may like to keep an eye out for scorpion-like shapes that don't flouresce. You may run into my favorite arachnid, Mastigoproctus giganteus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 A lot of shark teeth are also florescent! Is your UV lamp UVA or UVB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRatKing Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Scylla said: A lot of shark teeth are also florescent! Is your UV lamp UVA or UVB? I have access to all three A, B, and C. I also have a hand held long/shortwave wand. For these photos a 425ish nm flashlight was used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 This topic has been discussed many times in the past. I always take a UV light with me to Fossil shows and shops to identify if any White River fossils have restoration done to them, it is unmistakable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoNoel Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 For as fun as a night hunt in the white river fm would be, I would probably not do so just based on how treacherous the terrain can be. Maybe just in a low relief area of exposures. The thought has crossed my mind before as hunting for white bones on white sediments in broad daylight can be difficult to refine your eyes towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 white river eggshell also glows. So does calcite. You do get a lot of false positives doing this in the white river, but try it on an anthill and you will get lots of little goodies. (But you will also miss the non-toothy goodies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 hours ago, LabRatKing said: Yes, scorpions glow under UV as do many minerals As does Amber MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The White River rhino skull I recently got also has the same effect under UV light. I actually used the UV light during prepping in some cases because the teeth light up so clearly, but the bone itself too, while not as intense also lights up compared to the surrounding matrix, which didn't light up at all. So it helped seeing what part is bone and what is matrix. 2 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, LordTrilobite said: used the UV light during prepping A potentially very useful aide I had never dreamed of, thanks. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, snolly50 said: A potentially very useful aide I had never dreamed of, thanks. I tried to make some photos but it wasn't as visible because I only have a small hand held UV light. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRatKing Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, LordTrilobite said: I tried to make some photos but it wasn't as visible because I only have a small hand held UV light. This is the light I used for the photo: (Purchased via the big A site four under 20USD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbi Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Thank you everyone for giving me an idea of using UV flashlight to search for certain fossils, I have never thought of it before! I just ordered the Vansky UV flashlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabfossilsteve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Thanks for showing that whip scorpion, haven't seen one of them in a long time. Cool. Not a true scorpion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, crabfossilsteve said: Thanks for showing that whip scorpion, haven't seen one of them in a long time. Cool. Not a true scorpion. Indeed, fascinating creatures and in my opinion much more pleasant to stumble upon as opposed their distant stinging cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplomado Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Mine oredont's teeth are bright orange under UV too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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