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I took a break from Lee Creek and Bone Valley matrix and worked on some Waurika matrix.  This matrix was so much fun to go through.  Every was a first for my collection!  I believe that I identified everything correctly but if you see anything that is wrong please let me know.  I will be adding more to this post in the near future....

@sharkdoctor Thought you would enjoy the pictures!

 

Dimetrodon limbatus claw 5MM:  @Bobby Rico @dinodigger From previous posts I have read, this is right up your alley.

 

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Diplocaulus Jaw 2MM: 

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Shark tooth  I have not found anything that shows this type of tooth for this location.  I think it might be a contaminant?  @Al Dente

 

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How cool is this 2MM piece of matrix with a Barbclabornia luederensis tooth in it:

 

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Orthocanthus platypternus:

 

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Tons of different shaped Orthocanth shark denticles: 

 

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     This one looks like two that are still attached together

 

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More variety of teeth pictures to come!

                                                                                                                                                            

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Excellent stuff here!  :wub: 
Permian material is so intriguing!

Thanks for posting!  

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3 hours ago, hokietech96 said:

Diplocaulus Jaw 2MM: 

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Definitely not Diplocaulus. This is an amniote jaw. The delicate fluting on the teeth looks a lot like acleistorhinid parareptiles, perhaps something like Delorhynchus.

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16 minutes ago, jdp said:

 

Definitely not Diplocaulus. This is an amniote jaw. The delicate fluting on the teeth looks a lot like acleistorhinid parareptiles, perhaps something like Delorhynchus.

Thank you so much for your feedback! This is new material for me so thank you so much with the ID help!  What should I being looking for in the characteristics for Diplocaulus?

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Diplocaulus has small simple conical teeth that are all the same size, a jaw that is extremely deep compared to the tiny teeth, and the surface of the bone has a really conspicuous golf ball texture. Most of the stuff called "Diplocaulus" on the internet just isn't, which is strange given how common Diplocaulus is at many Permian sites.

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7 minutes ago, jdp said:

Diplocaulus has small simple conical teeth that are all the same size, a jaw that is extremely deep compared to the tiny teeth, and the surface of the bone has a really conspicuous golf ball texture. Most of the stuff called "Diplocaulus" on the internet just isn't, which is strange given how common Diplocaulus is at many Permian sites.

Great information.  Thanks so much.  I have more matrix to go through so hopefully I find one.

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On 10/28/2020 at 6:20 PM, jdp said:

Good luck! Feel free to tag me in if you have questions about IDs!

I picked up some Ryan formation Permian microfossil gravel a little while back and started to dig in and wondered if you had a link to a website, paper or even a good old fashioned book that helps with IDs with this material.  @hokietech96 great pictures.

 

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I don't, sorry. My experience comes from working with research collections of early Permian vertebrate fossils for several decades.

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It has been a bit of time since I posted.  Just wanted to add some additional teeth that I have found in the matrix.  Everything is 3-5MM.  Any corrections with my ID is much appreciated! @jdp

 

#1 Trimerorachis insignis

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#2 Trimerorachis insignis (front)

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#2 Trimerorachis insignis (back)

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#3 Ophiacodon retroversa tooth??

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#4 Eryops megacephalus (front)

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#4 Eryops megacephalus (back)

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#5 Beat up Dimetrodon tooth (front)

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#5 Beat up Dimetrodon tooth (back)

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I'm still learning to id permian material, so these may not be accurate. Regardless, very cool teeth!

 

Some of the teeth that look like 1,2 found in this matrix may actually be fish. See this thread:

 

3,4 look like xenacanthid/orthacanthid shark cusps. I think eryops and ophiacodon don't have ziphodont teeth. 

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6 hours ago, ThePhysicist said:

I'm still learning to id permian material, so these may not be accurate. Regardless, very cool teeth!

 

Some of the teeth that look like 1,2 found in this matrix may actually be fish. See this thread:

 

3,4 look like xenacanthid/orthacanthid shark cusps. I think eryops and ophiacodon don't have ziphodont teeth. 

I did not even think that they could be cusps!!  Thanks for bringing that up. They look little ie that’s what they are. Thanks!

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23 hours ago, hokietech96 said:

It has been a bit of time since I posted.  Just wanted to add some additional teeth that I have found in the matrix.  Everything is 3-5MM.  Any corrections with my ID is much appreciated! @jdp

 

#1 Trimerorachis insignis

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#2 Trimerorachis insignis (front)

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#2 Trimerorachis insignis (back)

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#3 Ophiacodon retroversa tooth??

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#4 Eryops megacephalus (front)

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#4 Eryops megacephalus (back)

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#5 Beat up Dimetrodon tooth (front)

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#5 Beat up Dimetrodon tooth (back)

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First few teeth are actinopterygian. The remainder look like broken pieces of xenacanthid (probably Orthacanthus)

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