Planko Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Hel everyone. I have been here watching and learning like always. Haven't posted in awhile as I have been able to identify most items. These two were found end of last month in the NSR, Delta County, TX. Sorry for the shiny spots. Just washed them off with water. Any help will be greatly appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Not sure of the first or second. That second one is really cool! Going out on a limb it looks kind of like a worn reptile sacral vertebrae. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I do not recognize anything in the first object to say fossil. The second is clearly bone whose and what escape me. I don’t know if better pictures would clarify any of it. One thought I have is Tully bone and another thought is skull elements. There are people in the Dallas paleontology society that will really know the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planko Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Thanks for the replies. First is bone. Maybe better pics. I was thinking a skull bone of some sort on the second but couldn't find anything to show it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhysicist Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Yes, would like to see better pics of the first one, I see indications of bone. On the second, I don't think it's skull. Looks like a broken turtle vert? I haven't seen one in-person before so I'm not sure. Image from this thread: 1 "Argumentation cannot suffice for the discovery of new work, since the subtlety of Nature is greater many times than the subtlety of argument." - Carl Sagan "I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there." - Richard Feynman Collections: Hell Creek Microsite | Hell Creek/Lance | Dinosaurs | Sharks | Squamates | Post Oak Creek | North Sulphur River | Lee Creek | Aguja | Permian | Devonian | Triassic | Harding Sandstone Instagram: @thephysicist_tff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planko Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Turtle vert. Interesting and cool. Would be nice to get confirmation. I will take a couple better pics of the first one later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planko Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 A couple of new pics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhysicist Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Tough to say... I've seen phosphatized bone from NSR that's this dark black/grey color, you usually find it in the red layer (you can see some remaining matrix on this) along with the baculites. It is hard to recognize as bone, really the overall shape is a better tell than the actual texture and small-scale structures one usually sees. The only thing that bothers me is some areas that look flaky, and not quite like fish bones. It could be bone, but I'm not certain. As an example, The largest black piece and the one to the left of it are the kind of stuff I'm talking about. The surface and texture don't look much like typical bones, they're dull, not shiny, you can't see much detail, etc. 1 "Argumentation cannot suffice for the discovery of new work, since the subtlety of Nature is greater many times than the subtlety of argument." - Carl Sagan "I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there." - Richard Feynman Collections: Hell Creek Microsite | Hell Creek/Lance | Dinosaurs | Sharks | Squamates | Post Oak Creek | North Sulphur River | Lee Creek | Aguja | Permian | Devonian | Triassic | Harding Sandstone Instagram: @thephysicist_tff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planko Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Thanks for the responses. I might be wrong. I have found some of what you are referring too. I have been looking and the closest thing I have found is a picture of a Saurian jaw bone fragment from a species found in the Kemmeridge Clay Deposit, Dorset. Not the same but similar. I guess I will put it in my unknown pile for now. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 If you are certain it is bone, then it has a resemblance to mosasaur humerous in crude outline. just a thought not something I want to hang my hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 10313horn said: If you are certain it is bone, then it has a resemblance to mosasaur humerous in crude outline. just a thought not something I want to hang my hat on. FYI: this image is a partial mosasaur coracoid. @Planko Your find seems to be highly eroded...possibly removing most identifying characteristics. 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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