Peace River ID help

[PODIGGER]

Got out to the Peace River, FL yesterday for another hunt.  The water level finally seemed low enough that I would be able to get to my target spot and have a productive day. The only problem was the fact that the sun never came out and I had to quit early due to getting wet and cold with no way to warm up.  Luckily I had my emergency dry shirt to change into before I started shivering!  I always keep one on board the kayak sealed in a plastic bag. Came up with several of the usual items, horse tooth, partial megs, couple of hemis, turtle and a nice gator tooth.  Then I pulled up what I believe are an armadillo scute, camelid incisor and a tiny dolphin tooth.  The last three I am posting below for some help and/or confirmation on the ID.  First a picture of the best of the day finds -

 

 

 

 

Here is what I believe is the camelid incisor.  From prior posts by @digit and @Shellseeker along with comparable pictures from @Harry Pristis  I believe this is a large headed llama tooth, Hemiauchenia macrocephala.  Both digit and Shellseeker found prior examples that they posted here on the forum along with Harry's pictures -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of @Harry Pristis examples:

 

 

 

 

Next up is a small tooth I believe is dolphin.  It is only 20mm long so is dolphin possible?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finally, what I have id'd as an armadillo dermal scute -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any help with confirmation or other possible id's would be appreciated, Thanks!

[Shellseeker]

6 minutes ago, PODIGGER said:

Got out to the Peace River, FL yesterday for another hunt.  The water level finally seemed low enough that I would be able to get to my target spot and have a productive day. The only problem was the fact that the sun never came out and I had to quit early due to getting wet and cold with no way to warm up.  Luckily I had my emergency dry shirt to change into before I started shivering!  I always keep one on board the kayak sealed in a plastic bag. Came up with several of the usual items, horse tooth, partial megs, couple of hemis, turtle and a nice gator tooth.  Then I pulled up what I believe are an armadillo scute, camelid incisor and a tiny dolphin tooth.  The last three I am posting below for some help and/or confirmation on the ID.  First a picture of the best of the day finds -

 

You went out yesterday ?  I looked at the weather forecasts and decided that Monday would be a preferable.. sunshine thru noon, no rain I was well upstream.... Bailed out early as the clouds rolled in.

Very nice find on the Hemiauchenia macrocephala incisor.  I love the size of these. Your Armadillo scute runs down the tail. I got a couple of the more normal rectangular ones. 

I agree on all 3 of your tentative IDs. I believe that Dolphin teeth could run 1/2 the size of your find, but I would like that confirmed by some of out Maryland or North Carolina experts.  They see lots more dolphin teeth than I.

 

Here is the only oddball that I found on Monday.  Do not be fooled by the size.  I know what it is....

 

So, we can HUNT All we have to do is increased the thickness on our wetsuit choice !

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for the reply and confirmation.  I held out for Tuesday thinking the water level would be a little lower, didn't think about the temperature level!  Although small I would say your find is a whale tooth?

[digit]

2 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Very nice find on the Hemiauchenia macrocephala incisor.

   

 

Agreed. These camel incisors can be really cool looking. Here's one I found 2 years ago when I was out leading a Tampa Bay SCUBAnauts group (teens & pre-teens) on an outing to the Peace River. Spent most of the time making sure they were having fun and finding good stuff but had a free moment or two to toss some shovels of gravel in a sifter and pulled up a tiny shark vert and the tooth shown above--quality over quantity!

 

The dolphin tooth is well in line with the size I've seen from the Peace River.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for your input Ken.  That photo of your find is one I used to help make the ID.

[digit]

And I got that ID from Richard Hulbert so you're golden.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

[Shellseeker]

2 hours ago, PODIGGER said:

 Although small I would say your find is a whale tooth?

 YES !!! Whale at 27 mm... Wow.

I have seen this pattern of wear on much larger teeth.... but as I have indicated in other threads, there is no scientific identification of any whale that would have teeth of this size in South Central Florida..... I have about 20 of these small whale teeth in the range of 30-40 mm, but this is my smallest yet...