Peace River ID Help

[PODIGGER]

Made it out to the Peace River yesterday for what turned out to be a beautiful day.  Quite a number of the usual finds and then a few I am wondering about.  One small thin tooth, just 27 mm, that I believe is a mammal incisor and  second one, 19mm, that appears to me to be the same thing but worn or broken down smaller.  After a lot of on line searching I came up with the possibility that they are Tapir or possibly a broken camelid/llama incisor?  Or is it not even land mammal?

The third tooth has me stumped on what to even look for.  It appears to be a whole tooth with two roots but measures only 9mm x 19mm.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Tooth #1 Tapir? -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second tooth that I believe is a shorter, more worn version of the first -

 

 

 

The third tooth is double rooted and quite small at 9mm X 19mm

 

 

 

 

 

[Bone Daddy]

That first one is really weird. My first thought would be tooth also, but then again, I've never seen a tooth like that, so it might turn out to be something stranger.

 

I'm going next week and I can't wait. I haven't touched the Peace since last May.

 

 

[jpc]

The bulbous end of the first one tells me this is probably the root of a mammal molar. 

[PODIGGER]

Thanks Bone Daddy and jpc.  I've been searching all day for a comparative mammal tooth with no luck for any of them. Maybe @Shellseekeror @Harry Pristis will have an idea.

 

I'm heading back to the river tomorrow for another hunt! 

Jim W.

[PODIGGER]

@Bone Daddy just to follow up on the river.  I have been visiting periodically since November and I am finally seeing the water depth getting to a very nice level for digging.  While I hate to see graffiti marring our beautiful natural setting of the Peace I am including a couple of pictures below that demonstrate how much the river water level has dropped.  GOOD LUCK on your first visit of the season next week!! (maybe I should have waited?)

 

[PrehistoricWonders]

Possibly juvenile mammoth tooth root on the last one? Weird break, so not to sure.

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for the response Familyroadtrip.  I also thought it had the look of mammoth, but I couldn't imagine that a mammoth tooth could be so small.  After extensive online research I have not found any mammoth tooth that would fit.  Still an open question.

[Lorne Ledger]

The second one could be a baby mammoth, it looks close to this one but yours has complete roots.

[PrehistoricWonders]

4 hours ago, PODIGGER said:

Thanks for the response Familyroadtrip.  I also thought it had the look of mammoth, but I couldn't imagine that a mammoth tooth could be so small.  After extensive online research I have not found any mammoth tooth that would fit.  Still an open question.

This is an unerupted juvenile Mammoth tooth. The texture and shape(if it was a partial) seem consistent to me.

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for the pic's Familyroadtrip and Lorne Ledger I think you solved the mystery. Heading back to the same spot today. Maybe I'll find one of mom or dad's!

[Shellseeker]

 

Most of the small teeth I find in the Peace River with that little knobby root end have been dolphin.

 

I can not tell much from your 2nd tooth.

 

The 3rd fossil:

This is either the very bottom tips of the roots of an adult mammoth tooth (99%) or a single plate split off a juvenile/baby mammoth tooth (1%),

I do not see any sign on the sides of your fossil that it split off from a larger tooth. 

 

I did well yesterday.  Hope you have a beautiful and productive day...  Jack

 

[PODIGGER]

Thanks Jack.  I will put 1 & 2 in the dolphin folder as both have that knobby end you referenced.  The 3rd will go as a juvenile/baby mammoth as there is no sign of it having split off from another plate.

 

I had a good today.  Found a larger mammoth plate and what I believe is another juvenile mammoth tooth.  It's larger than the one in this thread and more robust.  I really have to research it further as it is about 1.5" tall and has a bulbous base. Found a complete tiger shark tooth at 1.25" that has a nice gray/white color, another llama tooth, a vert and a bunch of things I need to go through and better ID.

 

Jim

[Shellseeker]

Sounds like you were out Thursday,  so was I. Considerably upstream of you, I think.  I have been moving around a lot lately.

Thursday was a very pretty day on the river... As I am driving in to temps in the high 40s and mid 50s, I always wonder,  but it has been getting to mid 70s with the sun shining...  As I get older,  I notice that I move to the sun, out of the shade, even in those situations when I was making good fossil finds and move to a less productive spot.

Sometimes, I stumble across spots where the tigers and hemis are about the same size.

[PODIGGER]

Nice finds! It was actually Friday I was out and the weather was much as you described for Thursday.  One of my finds is a bit unusual for me - and I found the same type bone last spring.  Both seem to have a "peace sign" imbeded in them (not turtle).  Looks to me like they could be Artioactyl, camelid/bison proximal phalanx or piece of a calcanea.  I'll be posting them shortly asking for some help with the ID.  Hope you can take a look.