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south france jurrasic ID help


lulu105

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Last summer I've went south alps of france (drôme) in an area probably dating from end of jurrasic

 

I found 2 unknown fossils

 

Can somebody help me?

 

1st one:

 

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2nd:

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I don't know much about the area, but other fossils I've seen from Drome (such as ammonites) have been lower cretaceous.

 

The first piece looks like a large shell of some sort, but I don't see any signs of a fossil in the second photo.

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The first piece looks like a section of an ammonite. I don't see a fossil in the second piece.

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Sadly, the second one might be a case of pareidolia, however, the 1st one I believe to be a section of Ammonoidea, if I'm not mistaken... Nice find!

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Agree the first is a section of ammonite.  In the second, the doughnut shaped item between 20-22 cm on the rule could possibly be an inverted crinoid holdfast but it is difficult to judge if there is depth to the edges, which would increase confidence.

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Hello

 

thanks for your help

 

I can understand your point of view regarding the first one, but its shape is bit strange. Here some more pictures:

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and some more pictures from 2nd one:

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Salut and welcome to the forum!

 

I see what you mean about the first one, not your textbook ammonite. My first thought was deformed ammonite. Maybe it is a highly eroded piece that contains only the septa, the walls dividing the chambers standing out as ridges, but no trace of the outer shell.

The second one may be a trace of some fossil, (or fossil of a trace), but it is hard to tell with so little detail.

 

Best Regards,

J

 

Try to learn something about everything and everything about something

Thomas Henry Huxley

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