charlie3425 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Could this be a Gavialosuchus americanus vertebra? It measures 5cm, found in Wyoming... 'It was life, Jim. But not as we know it.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Do you have any better provenance than just WY. Age, formation, town,, county...Looks like a Croc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) It is certainly a crocodilian vert. But these generally cannot be IDed to genus. Gavialosuchus is known from the gulf states, not Wyoming. By the time of Gavialosuchus, there were no more crocs here in WY. You can guess the genus by knowing the age, but I think that is s good as you can get with this one Crocodilian indet. It is not a tail or neck orsacral vert, so you can call it a thoracic. Edited April 21, 2021 by jpc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie3425 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Troodon said: Do you have any better provenance than just WY. Age, formation, town,, county...Looks like a Croc. Not yet, I've asked the seller... Update; he doesn't know. So I'm gonna let it go. It's on online if anyone is interested. Shipping costs included it is too expensive for me for what it is. Edited April 21, 2021 by charlie3425 'It was life, Jim. But not as we know it.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie3425 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, jpc said: It is certainly a crocodilian vert. But these generally cannot be IDed to genus. Gavialosuchus is known from the gulf states, not Wyoming. By the time of Gavialosuchus, there were no more crocs here in WY. You can guess the genus by knowing the age, but I think that is s good as you can get with this one Crocodilian indet. It is not a tail or neck orsacral vert, so you can call it a thoracic. Thank you for the information. So this next one might be a Gavialosuchus (see pic), it's from Orange County, Florida (Miocene)? It's bigger, 7cm long. Edited April 21, 2021 by charlie3425 'It was life, Jim. But not as we know it.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 There are multiple crocodylia in florida including Alligator mississippiensis so not sure you will get a closer ID. Lets see what others say that are more familiar with this locality @Harry Pristis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I am with troodon... again croc verts are difficult if not impossible to ID to genus. But if others can do it, all the more power to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I thought the croc' centrum was from Wyoming. If I found this specimen in Florida, I would think "Alligator," then I'd leave it where it was found. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The second one is Floridaa, Orange County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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