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kris.lyon

I saw this fossil for sale in Colorado labeled as a Archaeopteryx (second picture) by it it looks nothing like an Archaeopteryx. I google image searched the picture and the only look alike was on a website for Japanese travel photos (first picture) and I believe it was at a dinosaur museum in Japan. I'll put both pictures below! Please help me identify

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Both items look like fabrications to me, not real fossils

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PrehistoricWonders

Yup, they both appear to be fake to me:(

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FranzBernhard
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These are both casts of one and the same animal.

Edit: I got it completely wrong: These are not casts, these are artwork inspired probably by a Cotylorhynchus fossil.

 

At least the "non-flying" seems to be correct...

 

Franz Bernhard

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Fossildude19

Stay very far away. 

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Fossildude19
6 hours ago, FranzBernhard said:

These are both casts of one and the same animal. 

 

At least the "non-flying" seems to be correct...

 

Franz Bernhard

 

I would put "animal" in quotes. Pretty sure this is not a cast of a real fossil. ;) 

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FranzBernhard
1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said:

I would put "animal" in quotes. Pretty sure this is not a cast of a real fossil.

Ok, thank you!!

 

What do you think: A skeleton was carved (or assembled from various bones?) and than casts made? Or another process?

What was it intended to represent? Surly not an Archaeopterix...

 

I think, I have seen that before somewhere else, but maybe here on TFF.

 

Franz Bernhard

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Fossildude19
3 minutes ago, FranzBernhard said:

Ok, thank you!!

What do you think: A skeleton was carved (or assembled from various bones?) and than casts made? Or another process?

What was it intended to represent? Surely not an Archaeopterix...

I think, I have seen that before somewhere else, but maybe here on TFF.

Franz Bernhard

 

 

I think this was carved. Not sure if it is based on any real creature, but it is artwork, and not a true fossil.

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@FranzBernhard @Fossildude19

I think it is roughly based on a Cotylorhynchus fossil, because it has a similar shape and position but it's definitely not a realistic depiction of any animal

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FranzBernhard

Thanks so much, @Misha!

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There is indeed some similarity! Thank you!!

 

And I got it wrong - these two pieces of artwork are not casts from the same original.

The mystery, why it is "named" Archaeopterix, still remains...:D

Franz Bernhard

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