Big Mac boi Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 So I was on an auction website and an egg caught my eye it was stated it was 1 million to 2.58 million years old. It was also stated that this egg was found with other eggs in the nest, and they were selling the other eggs separately. I did research on it- the name on the website as a Madagascar Abrupt Giant Tortoise - egg - Aldabrachelys abrupta. When I searched for it the shell of the presumed fossil popped up and that's about it no art work no skulls no other fossils just the shell, so I thought you guys might know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Maybe @Tidgy's Dad might have something to say about this. 1 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It's sketchy. 1 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I'm with Tim, a perfect sphere without a single crack or piece of eggshell missing. Is it light? It looks like it would be hollow, can you get a close up picture with the light straight on instead of from the back? 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac boi Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Top Trilo said: I'm with Tim, a perfect sphere without a single crack or piece of eggshell missing. Is it light? It looks like it would be hollow, can you get a close up picture with the light straight on instead of from the back? Sure here are more photos that I took and from the website and yes the egg is very light and hollow Edited May 21, 2021 by Big Mac boi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Texture looks man-made to me, but not sure what the texture of a tortoise egg looks like, 1 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Tortoise eggs are spherical but I doubt a million year old egg would look that pristine. Always try to buy from a reputable Fossil Dealer. See pic of modern egg below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac boi Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 7:31 PM, Bronzviking said: Tortoise eggs are spherical but I doubt a million year old egg would look that pristine. Always try to buy from a reputable Fossil Dealer. See pic of modern egg below. So it's safe to say it's fake right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Big Mac boi said: So it's safe to say it's fake right? No one has said for sure that it is fake, I definitely don't have enough expertise to determine fake or real. I would wait for Adam (@Tidgy's Dad) since he has a tortoise and may know more about tortoise eggs. 1 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 "light and hollow" are very bad indication for fossils in general. 1 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Tortoise eggs can be round or oval, but the one shown is the right shape for the Aldabra tortoise: pretty much round. The size is also about right for the genus. The texture looks a little off and tortoise eggs are quite thin, and in the case of the modern Aldabra tortoise, soft and squishy - sort of rubbery., The fossil ones I have seen, especially of larger species, tend to be squished badly out of shape, or cracked and broken. I don't think that this is one. 6 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac boi Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Tortoise eggs can be round or oval, but the one shown is the right shape for the Aldabra tortoise: pretty much round. The size is also about right for the genus. The texture looks a little off and tortoise eggs are quite thin, and in the case of the modern Aldabra tortoise, soft and squishy - sort of rubbery., The fossil ones I have seen, especially of larger species, tend to be squished badly out of shape, or cracked and broken. I don't think that this is one. Is it a fossil at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Mac boi said: Is it a fossil at least? I don't think so. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 For me, the instant I look at this, my eyeballs told me it was a fake. Im no expert but would be super suspect of this. Good luck RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlesteve Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 It is hypothetically possible it could be a real tortoise egg that was infertile, dried out completely, and is now hollow (but otherwise not mineralized). Giant tortoises inhabited all of Madagascar only a couple thousand years back, and the last of them went extinct only about 500 years ago. So if elephant bird eggs have been found intact, tortoise eggs might still exist, because tortoises were far more numerous than elephant birds (and they bury their eggs). There is also the possibility of a dried out egg from a modern Aldabra tortoise. I have NO confidence that it’s real. But I do hatch tortoise eggs every year, and have also dug up old ones that got missed when they were laid. The size and appearance seems reasonable to me, so if it’s fake they did a good job. The fine lines/etchings on the surface resemble root traces. If the seller has photos of broken eggs or eggs with remains in them, it would make it much more believable... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac boi Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 UPDATE So after finding out the egg is suspicious I contacted the website to return the item the website sadly rejected it so i went to the seller and contacted him if I can return it and asked about the authentication about the egg if it comes with a certificate or not he said it did come with a certificate So do you all think the certificate is fabricated too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 That type has only been extinct 750 years...... most material is dated from 750-2850 years old...... so old egg maybe but not fossilized...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 That "certification" isnt worth the paper its printed on. I can print the same thing for any fossil I own. There is no authenticity or authority behind this piece of paper. 1 1 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 @Big Mac boi I appreciate your attempt to blur the company name on the certificate; but, I removed the image of it. As previously stated, certificates of authenticity add no credibility to a fossil's identification or genuineness. 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonsDoc Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Turtle and tortoise eggs are tough. I have a few and some look similar to yours. I’m not educated enough on them to comment though about their authenticity. There are perfectly spherical ones though. A very nice Chinese one sold through Bonhams about 15 years- you can look up the old listing still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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