Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Hi all what could this possibly be. Found along a river bed in Canada. I think might be ivory because of the lines seen on the black side. Quite heavy,. Note the fossils in the growth lines on the totally flat/ smooth side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Canada is a pretty big country. Exactly where did you find it? Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 This doesn't look like ivory or tusk to me. More like a bivalve imprint. What is the size of this item? There is no scale in the pictures. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 What is a bivalve imprint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: This doesn't look like ivory or tusk to me. More like a bivalve imprint. What is the size of this item? There is no scale in the pictures. 6 inches long. And Muskoka Ontario location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 To my knowledge, the Muskoka area is mostly Canadian Shield, so generally too old for fossils. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 It was found along a riverbed that drains from Algonquin park..I don't think it is a fossil...it is heavy , but when I tap it on something it sounds more like ivory ...not stone...and the lines on the black area look like ivory lines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 The lines in the black look more like slickensides, to me. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 And it is way to heavy to be wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 A bivalve imprint would be the impression of a clam type shell. This image looks slightly similar to a partial clam shell. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 The ridges seen on the black surface do not feel like scales such as slickenslides... And when I compare the sound of tapping this object on a stone ..it sounds more similar to the sound ivory tapped on stone makes, than stone on stone.. Note the growth lines..and the small fossils in the one section of growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Am I seeing some bubbles? I am in the man-made camp. I don´t know, what it is, but I can remember having seen some remotely similar stuff here on TFF used as a filler(??) in a boat. @Rockwood Franz Bernhard Edited May 24, 2021 by FranzBernhard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Growth lines or sedimentary layers? 1 Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 But the lack of Shreger lines, and the improbability of ivory being found in the area are strikes against this being ivory or tusk material. The vessicles or air bubbles certainly point to some sort of man made material, and cement or bondo might sound different that regular rock. It would also explain the odd textures on different sides. The cracking also looks like weathered resin product, to me. 5 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Paleontology12345 said: And it is way to heavy to be wood What would explain the ridges on the black side..and the growth or sedimentary lines..and fossils formed in those layers..?? It is too heavy to be wood or plastic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Some sort of mortar/cement that was up against some textured surfaces could explain the ridges and apparent growth/sedimentary lines. And cement is heavier than wood. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Maybe try applying heat with a small flame or hot needle? Looks like a chunk of sealant to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Red hot needle did not go into it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 If it's manmade why are there fossils in it? Curious what is the thing that looks like a sliced onion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleontology12345 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 I don't think it is man made..the fossils in it like the onion shape and the leaf shapes and growth lines...also hot needle did not penetrate it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I know you think that, I was asking others to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Paleontology12345 said: I don't think it is man made..the fossils in it like the onion shape and the leaf shapes and growth lines...also hot needle did not penetrate it.. A hot needle would not penetrate cement. 14 minutes ago, Lone Hunter said: I know you think that, I was asking others to explain. I don't think they are fossils. They look like mineral staining to me. The item is most likely man made, due to the air holes/gas bubbles in it. 1 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I am not confident that those small blob-like features are fossils, but possibly artifacts of the manufacture of the piece, weathering, or a possible geologic process. 1 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.Dodson Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I'm for the sealant/mortar/construction material theory. Aside from the bubbles I've also seen that sort of layering in construction byproducts before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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