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Hamadasuchus, Elosuchus or another species


Mart1980

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Hello,

 

I like to buy some crocodile teeth. I am unable to decide between HamadasuchusElosuchus or another species. Location Kem Kem.

I have this picture , I hope somebody can help me out.

From left to right: 26 mm, 46 mm and 37mm

 

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All of them do indeed look like croc teeth. But assigning a genus to it might be a bit more difficult. The large brown tooth might be robust enough to be Elosuchus. But the other ones are too slender for that I think. And there are still a lot of undescribed crocs in the Kem Kem group. So smaller teeth might not be identifiable yet unless you find an exact match.

Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite

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Agree, let me add that the Elosuchus holotype paper just describes a few maxillary teeth none are caniniforms like the two you are showing, so an ID cannot be definitive.  In addition there are Crocodyliforms which are found in Niger like Kaprosuchus that has caniniforms this large.  So since other Crocodyliform genus like Laganosuchus and Araripesuchus present in in both faunas its possible Kaprosuchus is also there.

 

 

 

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None of them is Hamadasuchus - the teeth of this crocodile species show a great deal of lateral compression, and mostly are very short, with closer to a triangular apex. Below are a couple of photographs to illustrate how these are supposed to look (at least insofar as they are commercially classified as such):

 

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The big reddish-brown one in the first photograph has a good chance of being Elosuchus, as it both is robust enough and has the right type of ornamentation. See the pictures below for comparison:

 

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But as Olof justly pointed out above, there are many undescribed crocodilian species in the Kem Kem. So the other teeth might belong to any of them...

'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett

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