RescueMJ Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Greetings, Unusual caramel colored tooth recovered from land spoil in East Venice, FL. I understand this tooth is not complete, most likely a lower tooth and not that worn. unusual ridges on the sides. Unlike any other equus tooth I have found. I spent around 15 hours going through the ID galleries from the forum as well as Fruitbat's library. I'm reaching out for help with this one. Additionally, I have recovered an unusual amount of fossils from this 80' x 80' parcel. Iron content in this location results in most fossils colored reddish/brown. I'm hoping the tooth ID will help guide me towards the id of the other animals involved at this site. Dimensions: Length in EQ1 is 4cm. EQ3 photo is 17 mm horizontally and 12mm vertically. Regards, -Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I think that your tooth is approximately half of an Equus upper right M3. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 ? Could it be s piece of bison premolar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hi, No, for me too it is a horse. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RescueMJ Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 And the answer is: lower right premolar (p2) from Equus. Verified by Dr. Hulbert. The island that threw me off is explained. "I have attached what I think is the correct orientation for this specimen. The formation of the island (what we fossil horse specialists would call a fossettid) is unusual. It is caused by a connection between the metaconid and the protolophid. Just an odd individual variation, not of significance for species level identification. It is seen in Equus more often in deciduous second lower premolars than the permanent ones. But the crown height of your specimen is too great for it to be a deciduous tooth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 hours ago, RescueMJ said: And the answer is: lower right premolar (p2) from Equus. Verified by Dr. Hulbert. Thanks for following up. It is nice getting correct answer and understanding the details that lead to an identification. Jack The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RescueMJ Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Further information on Equus identification can be found in the Fossil Discussion Page "FLorida Equus ID Information Guide". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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