Agapegrow Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Hello we are the Placers. These were found at Crystal park, MT. I just thought they were neat rocks but when I started trying to take the crystals out of them I notice what looked like an eye socket and skin. So I stopped immediately and did this. So many different pieces almost like it was a den of them. All of these are from around the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Sorry but no eye socket and definitely no skin, just a rock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Agreed... Interesting minerals, but no fossils. (Fossils do not occur in igneous rock) Is that epidote and quartz, and some other dark mineral? It is similar to the epidote/quartz occurrences we have over here on Vancouver Island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agapegrow Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 I wish you could sew them for real pics are just not showing you what I see its really quite strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Yes rocks can be very strange. Start with the basics, you can't have just one socket without some other features, like the other one, or a nose or mouth. If it were an eye socket it would be on something smooth with curves and angles that resemble a skull of some sort. Skin doesn't fossilize, usually just impressions of it, and again it would be on a level smoother surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 These are all different minerals mixed together. I see, you are from Butte, the famous mining district. I have not looked up Crystal Park and what can be found there. But at least around Butte, you have a real mish-mash of rocks and mineralizations of all kind. For seeing fossils in things, that´s not uncommon. It is like seeing things in clouds etc. It is called Pareidolia (link to wikipedia) This is neither a psychiatric nor a psychic disease, its just the normal ability of our brain to make meaningful patterns out of fragmentary information. This was very helpful for recognizing dangerous animals or human enemies at a glance in the past. Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 There is really no one aspect of these photos that can be said to eliminate all possibility of it being an eye. The piece is quite unlike any fossil bone I have ever seen identified however. It would need to be identified through the context in which it was found and I believe it would be irresponsible to suggest it possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Rockwood, most of the time I understand you and sometimes I don't, this is one of those timesIm thinking OP probably can't either. Seems your talking a circle so perhaps you could put it in layman's terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Lone Hunter said: put it in layman's terms. It's nearly impossible to prove a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Of course silly me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agapegrow Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Well thank you for looking I can not stop seeing things in these dang rocks there memorizing. And yes there all from the same spot I was digging. I wanted to make sure before i put them in a solution to remove iron that im not damaging history. Im more then new to all of this. I find it so interesting feel, like a kid watching Jurassic park for the first time. This next one is big so I thought Id show it off any how. i see an eye a nose and a mouth with teeth and skin!! My mind is messing with me.. time to go to bed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Agapegrow said: I find it so interesting feel, like a kid watching Jurassic park for the first time. Many (most??) of us feel the same each time we are out exploring and digging ! 7 minutes ago, Agapegrow said: i see an eye a nose and a mouth with teeth and skin!! Your advanced pattern recognition system "sees" it, but it isn´t really there. 8 minutes ago, Agapegrow said: time to go to bed.. Really? I have not looked it up, but isn´t it only around 4 am at your longitude ? Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Google third shift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Google third shift. Didn´t think about that . Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I think everyone is correct that this is not a fossil. I think that you are seeing the cavities that the crystals form in. All that being said sometimes photos dont do justice to what you can see, at times like that consulting actual experts is the way to go. Museums and fossil clubs are the place to take your sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If you google pareidolia you will learn something. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agapegrow Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 last one and thank you for your time, and look a Frog ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Agapegrow said: Well thank you for looking I can not stop seeing things in these dang rocks there memorizing. And yes there all from the same spot I was digging. I wanted to make sure before i put them in a solution to remove iron that im not damaging history. Im more then new to all of this. I find it so interesting feel, like a kid watching Jurassic park for the first time. This next one is big so I thought Id show it off any how. i see an eye a nose and a mouth with teeth and skin!! My mind is messing with me.. time to go to bed.. I agree with the others... I don't see any sort of biological features like what you're seeing, but my mother sees faces in all kinds of things like old stumps etc, when I miss them. More importantly I am not seeing anything like sedimentary rock. Fossils are preserved in sedimentary rock (well, 99.999% of the time) but your pieces are characteristically igneous. Go ahead an put them in the solution, you're not damaging any fossils! I would worry more about damaging the minerals, but if you've cleaned rocks like these before with good results, go for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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