Jmeister Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hey everyone, Any ideas about what this could be? We found it on a beach shore in Acadia Michigan. It has so many features that makes me think it's something special. - Triangle shape - possibly single root lobe and root line on top? Was thinking shark tooth but doesn't have two root lobes or v shaped root/gum line. Also seems very old. Was also thinking dinosaur, but It's my understanding there are no dinosaur fossils in Michigan, so possibly very old? Curious to know what you think! Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Sorry. Not seeing a tooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Sorry, that’s geologic, not a fossil. It represents a white quartz-infilled fracture in a metamorphic rock called a gneiss. The alternating light/dark bands are diagnostic 4 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 What a beautiful geological oddity! Thanks for sharing! In addition to the diagnoses given by @hemipristis, it appears that the rocks "below" and "above" the quartz-filled fracture are slightly different. That means, that there was probably some movement along the quartz-filled fracture involved. Franz Bernhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 The tooth shape is common in glacial float. The quartz fill is slightly more resistant to erosion than the country rock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Although it is oversimplifying tooth-anatomy by quite a bit, as a rule of thumb: if there's no enamel, then it's not a tooth. In addition, as others have explained, the type of minerals and grain characterising the rock are typical of a gneiss, a type of metamorphic rock. It's not very common to find these on a beach, I'd say, as metamorphic rock is a secondary rock, meaning it's formed out of existing rock, under high temperature and often pressure. You'd therefore mostly associate it with areas of geological upheaval, such as mountains (that's where I found most of my pieces in the past). Finding it on a beach - that is, at low elevation - implies a history: either the rock was washed down the mountain by a river, taken along by a glacier, as @Rockwood suggests, or brought in during one of the ice ages. 1 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmeister Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hey everyone, thank you for the information regarding your thoughts about what this could be. I just did a 3D scan of the object and wanted to share it with you. This might give a better impression of the unique curves and shape of the object. I'm in Minnesota now and plan to get this object into the hands of an expert just to see what their thoughts are. If anyone knows of anyone in the twin cities area that could take a physical look at it, let me know! Note: ignore the hot glue globs on the top and bottom. Should be able to open this attached file in a 3D object viewing software. If using Windows 3D Viewer go to "Stats & Shading" then click "Albedo" under "Texture Data" this will show the actual texture with out the weird shiny lighting effects. Unknown_Fossil_Acadia_Beach_MI.obj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jmeister said: I'm in Minnesota now and plan to get this object into the hands of an expert just to see what their thoughts are. The individual that have responded are experts and I agree with their comments. This one unlike others we see is an easy call its clearly geologic, looks cool but nothing special 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 That's a perfect example of pareildolia. 2 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmeister Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Troodon said: The individual that have responded are experts and I agree with their comments. This one unlike others we see is an easy call its clearly geologic, looks cool but nothing special I'm open minded to the ideas and agree it's possibly geological. Not rejecting any ideas, just wanted to provide the best representation of the object in an effort to share the unique look of it with others. I am new to fossil/rock hunting and personally found it fascinating compared to other rocks I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I half knew using the word 'expert' might make some think I'm rejecting their knowledge, this was not the intention. The point I was trying to make is getting it into the physical hands of 'another', just so they can have the benefit of holding and touching it as additional data in their assessment. I have great respect for your knowledge, i am just being thorough for due diligence. As a graphic designer/engineer, I deal a lot with images and different types of objects, so naturally I am prone to noticing the disconnect from assessing flat images vs the real physical objects. I know when to put this one to rest but just wanted to make sure we aren't missing something before I move on and hurl it back into the depths from which it came for another hundred+ million years. Many thanks! :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Hi, I can’t see your file. I guess that’s the case for many other TFF members. Please put images in JPG format directly on the forum. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmeister Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Coco said: Hi, I can’t see your file. I guess that’s the case for many other TFF members. Please put images in JPG format directly on the forum. Coco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Enjoyed the 3D of the rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, Lone Hunter said: Enjoyed the 3D of the rock! Indeed! It's a great 3D rendering if the stone, but it still is just that - although I must say that without the clear textures of the photographs, it's a bit more difficult to identify it as a gneiss now 1 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 There's conchoidal fractures on the top of the specimen in the video, reminds me of silex ( chert, flint, or similar). " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmeister Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, abyssunder said: There's conchoidal fractures on the top of the specimen in the video, reminds me of silex ( chert, flint, or similar). If you are referring to the very top, some hot glue made it into the 3D scan. I glued it to the back side of a plate, pointing upward so I could take the 360 degree scans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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