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Camel/Llama Small Molar


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Summertime presents challenges and rewards.

Usually, you are digging in deeper water, even when you can find gravel.  For me, this means 4 to 5 feet. Most times, I can not employ my favorite technique: dig down to whatever is underneath the gravel and spread out from the river bottom. I am basically scraping the top 6 inches of gravel. and thus I am depending on new gravel getting washed downstream by the faster currents.

My finds tend to be less diverse and limited in numbers compared to winter hunting. So, 5 osteoderms, 4 Mastodon fragments, 3 mammal earbones, 3 gar scales, a bunch of
medium" size shark teeth.

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But today, I am interested in that tooth, which I believe to be from one of Florida's Camel_llamas.

So the tooth:

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It is quite small at 20 mm APL.

A while back, @Harry Pristis indicated that faint crenulations on the enamel would more indicative of Palaeolama than Hemiauchenia. I seem to see faint crenulations.

Twisting the tooth to match this comparison: makes me think it is a lower right or upper left molar.  and specifically the one that seems most similar to me is the m1.

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So my net from all this speculation is that this is a slightly beat_up lower right jaw m1 from a Palaeolama mirifica.

I am only about 70% sure and reach out to others who might have an alternative analysis or conclusion. 

Some alternatives: It might be an m3; It might be upper left m1; It might be Hemiauchnia;  It might be a large deer tooth.

Reinforcing the concept that single tooth identification is difficult.   Jack

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Nice haul Jack.   I love the tiger shark teeth.

 

what is the tooth on the bottom right, second up?

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2 hours ago, Family Fun said:

Nice haul Jack.   I love the tiger shark teeth.

 

what is the tooth on the bottom right, second up?

I just took a couple of photos... It is basically 15-16mm on all mesurement .  I had thought it to be a Tiger (para?) symphyseal but I would defer to others expertise. @Al Dente @MarcoSr

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7 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

I had thought it to be a Tiger (para?) symphyseal


I think you’re right.

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9 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

I just took a couple of photos... It is basically 15-16mm on all mesurement .  I had thought it to be a Tiger (para?) symphyseal but I would defer to others expertise. @Al Dente @MarcoSr

 

 

1 hour ago, Al Dente said:


I think you’re right.

 

I agree.

 

Marco Sr.

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4 hours ago, MarcoSr said:

I just took a couple of photos... It is basically 15-16mm on all mesurement .  I had thought it to be a Tiger (para?) symphyseal but I would defer to others expertise. @Al Dente @MarcoSr

Thanks for your responses. Confirmation is helpful.  I copied this photo of a G. cuvier symphyseal from a post by @siteseer.  There would seem to be significant variation. Usually mine are more like the one Jess posted.   I am struck by the large rectangular root of my newest addition which caused me to be careful on my identification.

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