Florida Pleistocene ID’s

[MeisTravis]

Hey all! I have some peace river mammal teeth I’m looking for help with. I’m hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can find something with these teeth. I know a couple aren’t great but hoping for the best! Thanks all!
 

 

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5) The root on this one is super cool, seems like a wide root!

 

 

[minnbuckeye]

@Shellseeker, here is another request for IDs that seem to be up your alley. An old post, but deserving of some help.

[PaleoNoel]

3 & 4 appear to be incisors. I'm relatively confident that 4 is deer, while I think 3 is either deer or camelid. I believe 2 is a camelid canine. 1 & 5 may be too fragmentary to tell, but could be carnivoran. Let's see what more experienced Pleistocene collectors have to say and I'll defer to their opinion. @Harry Pristis @PrehistoricFlorida

[Harry Pristis]

I suspect there were no initial responses to this post because:

* The images are inadequate -- not bright enough.

* The plethora of images are not numbered or otherwise distinguished from one-another.

[Shellseeker]

On 8/26/2021 at 4:15 PM, MeisTravis said:

Hey all! I have some peace river mammal teeth I’m looking for help with. I’m hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can find something with these teeth. I know a couple aren’t great but hoping for the best! Thanks all!

I apologize. I hunt the Peace River all the time. 4 months is a long time to get no answer at all to a request for help, but sometimes things fall thru the cracks.  That is why we are thankful for TFF members like @minnbuckeye.

 

I will try to give you my best guess on each of the 5, with some pointer that might help you get certainty. I am a little busy. My granddaughter celebrated her 1st birthday at my home today.

 

#2 is a camel/llama incisor.  It is either from Palaeolama mirifica or Hemiauchenia . macrocephala and I am thinking Palaeolama. Lower incisors are numbered 1,2,3 from center to left and 1,2,3 from center to right. I think you have right side i2, with a broken root.

 

 

#4 is also an incisor.  I have found a few similar to this. I believe that they are Sus Scrofa.... modern pig. But it is curious , don't you think that one of the Tapir incisor in the research paper just below has some similarities..

 

Here is a research paper by Richard Hulbert Tapirus webbi .  It has some great photos of Tapir Incisors and teeth. 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Incisors-and-canines-of-Tapirus-webbi-n-sp-from-the-late-Miocene-of-Florida-A_fig5_235789831

 

Here is a tapir canine on Worthpoint for Tapirus Veroensis.  It is a Pleistocene version and this a lot more common than Tapirus webbi

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/santa-fe-river-florida-fossil-tapirus-413949118

 

So, my belief for #1, #2, and #5 are Tapir canines, most likely T. veroensis

 

Maybe you have been digging in a Tapir graveyard..  That is about as far as I can take you. Suggest you have enough pointers to make guesses as good as mine.