edteach Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I bought this online and they have 100 percent positive feed back. I can return it if its fake. I was told by a local rock hound that if it has an insect in the amber its 99 times out of 100 fake. I don't have it yet its out of Lithuania and will not be here for a few weeks. I can do the salt water test and ultra violet test but wondered what you guys thought visually. Thanks. il_794xN.2807983782_6qbi.webp il_794xN.2855654925_ey8q.webp il_794xN.2855655027_qkaj.webp il_794xN.2855655185_inhf.webp il_794xN.2855655297_8c87.webp il_1140xN.2855654925_ey8q.webp il_1140xN.2855655027_qkaj.webp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) I would say most likely real, but that is all I can say without the tests, I prefer the UV test. Since it is from Lithuania, I'd assume its baltic amber (40 million years old). Did the seller give you a location it was found? When it arrives make sure to update us on the verdict of the tests. Edit: Amber isn't nearly as rare as some may think and many real specimens with insects are found and sold across the world. (More than 1% are genuine) Edited August 30, 2021 by Top Trilo “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, edteach said: This is the sellers ad Forum rules do not allow links to ads, you can edit it out or an Admin or Mod will remove it. They don't mention where, but seeing as it is from Lithuania I'd think its Baltic amber but to be sure I'd message the seller. 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 11:43 PM, Top Trilo said: I would say most likely real, but that is all I can say without the tests, I prefer the UV test. Since it is from Lithuania, I'd assume its baltic amber (40 million years old). Did the seller give you a location it was found? When it arrives make sure to update us on the verdict of the tests. Edit: Amber isn't nearly as rare as some may think and many real specimens with insects are found and sold across the world. (More than 1% are genuine) I agree it looks real. The fakes are more often the large types of insect. Most insects in amber are quite small. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 5:43 PM, Top Trilo said: Amber isn't nearly as rare as some may think and many real specimens with insects are found and sold across the world. (More than 1% are genuine). More than 1% are genuine? Are more than 98% inauthentic? This is a sincere question. I would have assumed “1%” was a typo, but my knowledge of amber is too limited to make assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Your local rock hound is either excessively exaggerating or he has absolutely no idea. This type of amber is quite common over here and is in all likelihood genuine. 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phos_01 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 It looks real to me but perhaps @holdinghistory could tell more about this piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 There is others test like with a hot pin but absolutely no need here to do this, it looks good . Probably 99% better to ask TFF than your local guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Christine.Rowland said: More than 1% are genuine? Are more than 98% inauthentic? This is a sincere question. I would have assumed “1%” was a typo, but my knowledge of amber is too limited to make assumptions. The OP said "I was told by a local rock hound that if it has an insect in the amber its 99 times out of 100 fake". That implies that 1 in 100 or 1% are genuine but in reality a much higher percentage is real. “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edteach Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Thanks for the help. I thought the internal inclusions like the cracks would be hard to reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Generally a faked insect inclusion in amber will be larger and looks posed (wings and/or legs spread out) & the insect is usually very colorful, along with being centered in the piece. I would say yours is genuine. Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Top Trilo said: The OP said "I was told by a local rock hound that if it has an insect in the amber its 99 times out of 100 fake". That implies that 1 in 100 or 1% are genuine but in reality a much higher percentage is real. Thank you. I failed to make the connection to the prior statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehead Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 This looks like a very nicely sized caddisfly in Baltic amber, which are fairly common fossils from the region. Some are far too skeptical of amber's authenticity, I've found. No tests necessary here. Unless it's a huge perfect scorpion or some crab or lizard encased in obvious plastic, there's usually no reason to doubt if it's real. Beachcombers in Lithuania scoop these up by the hundreds out of the water and polish them for sale. I'd say if your friend is even remotely correct about anything, it's that 99 times out of 100 you won't find a neat inclusion like this inside the stone Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edteach Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Thanks. It came in and it does float in salt water, did not do the burn test for obvious reasons, it does fluoresce. It also when rubbed on a sweater it will pick up hair by static. So its all good and thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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