CovenG Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Howdy all. First post but long time lurker. Need a little help with an ID. The fossil was found in Central Florida while sifting for shark teeth. The river has exposures from the Miocene epoch, at times I think older, and have found all manners of shark teeth with occasional mammal and reptile fossils showing up (deer teeth, snake ribs, alligator teeth and others). However, this little sucker stumps me. A small part of me believes it is a type of coral, but I am literally lost on where to begin with its identification. For orientation I call the "bumpy" side the top and the "ring" side the bottom. If more photos or details are need please ask. Thank you all in advance. Top (Bumpy): Bottom (Rings): Edited September 2, 2021 by CovenG My horrible grammar and punctuation :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleorunner Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Welcome to the forum. Wait for a response from the most experts. I don't know where to take it either, but it doesn't look like coral to me, I'm even thinking of something geological. Please tell how tall you are. For example. (Ctms or inches). Thanks. Edited September 2, 2021 by Paleorunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Tooth mouth plate 1 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainefossils Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Welcome to the Forum! That is very interesting. I have not seen anything like that - that seems to happen a lot. I wonder what the others will say. Looking forward to seeing your shark and mammal teeth! The more I learn, the more I find that I know nothing. Regards, Asher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovenG Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 @Mainefossils thank you for the welcome. More to come @Paleorunner Assuming you meant how tall is the find; it is not tall all. My calipers put it at 11/64" (4.34 mm). @abyssunder Mouth plate to what? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Fish mouthplate, or pharyngeal teeth. 2 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, CovenG said: @Mainefossils thank you for the welcome. More to come @Paleorunner Assuming you meant how tall is the find; it is not tall all. My calipers put it at 11/64" (4.34 mm). @abyssunder Mouth plate to what? 22 minutes ago, CovenG said: @Mainefossils @Paleorunner @abyssunderMouth plate to what? Fish mouth plate Tim was the first. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovenG Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Awesome, thank you all! That actually put me on lead for another piece I have. We shall call this a two-fer! @Fossildude19 @abyssunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 It is probably from a wrasse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleorunner Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Seeing so many balloons packed together in the first 2 photos, I was totally disoriented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) I don’t know the species from Florida, but if it came from the French Miocene, I’d tell you it’s an upper dental cobblestone of the Labrodon pavimentatum fish. http://coquifran.unblog.fr/2019/02/11/neogene-planche-36-poissons-divers/ Here are represented only the lower dental pavers. Coco Edited September 3, 2021 by Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I agree, that this is a fish mouth plate and Coco's link show specimen that really look like yours. 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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