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Hiya everyone.

Just got another Megalodon for the collection is there any way to know what individual species or where in the mouth the tooth is from?

I recently picked up this meg tooth for the collection it’s my largest complete one as of now any help would be great.

I know u can sometimes tell where it’s from by the colour and sometimes where in the mouth the tooth would have been.

 

 

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I have no clue as to the jaw positioning or location, but I do know that megalodon is the species name, not a genus, so it's currently Otodus megalodon, though some still use Carcharocles megalodon. :meg: 

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17 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

I have no clue as to the jaw positioning or location, but I do know that megalodon is the species name, not a genus, so it's currently Otodus megalodon, though some still use Carcharocles megalodon. :meg: 

Thanks have u any idea if it’s possible to tell by looking at a tooth I’ve been told you can I might be wrong though 

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1 hour ago, Georgemckenzie said:

Thanks have u any idea if it’s possible to tell by looking at a tooth I’ve been told you can I might be wrong though 

Some experts sometimes can give suggestions as to a possible place of origin from its colouring and can maybe help regarding the jaw placing of the tooth. 

I know very little about it. :shrug:

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1 minute ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Some experts sometimes can give suggestions as to a possible place of origin from its colouring and can maybe help regarding the jaw placing of the tooth. 

I know very little about it. :shrug:

Thanks for the help :thumbsu:

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Thanks sorry about putting it in the wrong area :shakehead:

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It has the appearance of a tooth from the lower jaw. That is, more slender and dagger-like than the uppers. Also a deep V-shaped root may be an indicator.    

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2 minutes ago, snolly50 said:

It has the appearance of a tooth from the lower jaw. That is, more slender and dagger-like than the uppers. Also a deep V-shaped root may be an indicator.    

Thanks for the help :thumbsu:

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I'd say lower jaw, lateral tooth. 

Very nice Meg tooth! 

....and as above, species is megalodon, genus is Otodus

You said you've got other Meg teeth but have you got others within the Otodus genus? In my opinion they're very collectable - if that's your thing. A lot of them get "scary large" in size too. 

 

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(sorry to kind of hijack, but this is a good topic which isn't easy to good info online. A lot just collect teeth, some of us like to know more about the specific tooth)

After I bought my first Meg tooth, I found this site useful

Real Megalodon Teeth: The Collector's Guide · MegaTeeth

 

....but looking at their upper/lower, anterior/lateral teeth, it's not always obvious compared what's in front of you. Their lower teeth are very dagger like. 

In my collection I have what I believe to be a lower lateral and lower anterior. However I recently sold a lower tooth, very symmetrical (not hooked like a lateral) but it looks nothing like the lower anterior in my collection. 

 

If anyone can confirm or "re-educate" me on where these teeth belong I'd appreciate it :D

 

For what it's worth, the first tooth is 96mm, middle tooth is 125mm, bottom tooth is 103mm

 

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Hi,

 

For comparison, here are a Carcharodon carcharias upper and a lower tooth, the recent GW. You can see that the upper tooth is much wider than the lower tooth. Then it is the inclination of the crown (and possibly of the root) which allows to place it in the jaw concerned.
 
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Sorry for my photo which is very bad because made very fast with my phone.
 
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4 minutes ago, Coco said:

Hi,

 

For comparison, here are a Carcharodon carcharias upper and a lower tooth, the recent GW. You can see that the upper tooth is much wider than the lower tooth. Then it is the inclination of the crown (and possibly of the root) which allows to place it in the jaw concerned.
 
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Sorry for my photo which is very bad because made very fast with my phone.
 
Coco

I am so envious! 
I want a C. carcharias tooth to add to my collection, they're a very difficult tooth to get hold of! 

 

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Yes, it’s a protected species. I’ve had my teeth for many years.
 
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6 minutes ago, Coco said:
Yes, it’s a protected species. I’ve had my teeth for many years.
 
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Indeed they are, which is definitely a good thing!
I've got a large jaw from Isurus oxyrinchus (shortfin mako), a threatened species. While it sucks that the creature died (obviously many years ago), it is a privilege to own such a rare piece - I'm sure you feel the same way about your Great White teeth  :) 

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Yes, I measure their scarcity, I had them at the right time. I also have in my collection several jaws of Lamna nasus including one of 30 cm high, these are the hardest I have prepared. These are beautiful pieces.

Just so you know, all the jaws I preped came from my fishmonger, so sharks or rays were used as food.
 
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3 hours ago, Gareth_ said:

I'd say lower jaw, lateral tooth. 

Very nice Meg tooth! 

....and as above, species is megalodon, genus is Otodus

You said you've got other Meg teeth but have you got others within the Otodus genus? In my opinion they're very collectable - if that's your thing. A lot of them get "scary large" in size too. 

 

Thanks for the help i have 2 other Meg teeth one is quite small and black in colour I’ve got it packed away in storage somewhere and I’ve got a picture of the other here.

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2 hours ago, Gareth_ said:

(sorry to kind of hijack, but this is a good topic which isn't easy to good info online. A lot just collect teeth, some of us like to know more about the specific tooth)

After I bought my first Meg tooth, I found this site useful

Real Megalodon Teeth: The Collector's Guide · MegaTeeth

 

....but looking at their upper/lower, anterior/lateral teeth, it's not always obvious compared what's in front of you. Their lower teeth are very dagger like. 

In my collection I have what I believe to be a lower lateral and lower anterior. However I recently sold a lower tooth, very symmetrical (not hooked like a lateral) but it looks nothing like the lower anterior in my collection. 

 

If anyone can confirm or "re-educate" me on where these teeth belong I'd appreciate it :D

 

For what it's worth, the first tooth is 96mm, middle tooth is 125mm, bottom tooth is 103mm

 

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20210820_011137.jpg

20210820_011403.jpg

20210820_011429.jpg

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Some nice teeth u have there some great colours to :meg:

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3 hours ago, Georgemckenzie said:

Thanks for the help i have 2 other Meg teeth one is quite small and black in colour I’ve got it packed away in storage somewhere and I’ve got a picture of the other here.

 

 

 

No worries :) I hope someone with some good knowledge contributes to this because I'm keen to know more info! 

You can't do that! Putting a fossil in storage?! Megalodon teeth are supposed to be out on display :D

That tooth in your pic another nice example with what is likely just a little feeding damage

 

3 hours ago, Georgemckenzie said:

Some nice teeth u have there some great colours to :meg:

Thanks :) My O. chubutensis (the shark just before O. megalodon) tooth has some really bizarre colouring - a mix of 3 colours 

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