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pterosaur fossil (crow-sized) from the Early Cretaceous Period of the Yixian and Jiufotang Formations of China, dating from 125 to 120 million years ago


X-Ray Peter

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Hi Community,

I am not quite sure what my latest addition to my fossil collection really is.  Kryptodrakon?

Kunpengopterus antipollicatus?

Confuciusornis? (But there is no tail and no indication of feathers)

Monkeydactyl”?

Please help me in identifying what it really is.

 

Size: 12" by 10"

Many thanks,

Peter

 

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Hate to break it to you, but this is virtually certain the be a fake. It's a thin cut-out of a skeleton adhered to a flat rock.

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I agree; it seems to be an art project and not a fossil. 

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Agree, unfortunately you see lots of these type of fabrications on internet sites and they dupe many collectors.   Best you can do is try to obtain a refund. 

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It came with a certificate of athenticy of the Asia Museum.

 

From rock etc. it looks very authentic and breaks very easily.

 

To me it looks quite authentic compared to my approx. 800 other fossils.

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Look COA's are worthless documents when it comes to fossils, anyone can print one saying anything they want.  Asian museum? Where?

There is no bone detail in your specimen, bones are basically flat, its carved out of the matrix.  

Compare this one to yours

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Anyone with a printer can print out a "Certificate Of Authenticity". They mean absolutely NOTHING.

Unless there are photos of the fossil as found, and before preparation, included with the COA, there is no worth to a COA.

 

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1 hour ago, X-Ray Peter said:

It came with a certificate of athenticy of the Asia Museum.

 

From rock etc. it looks very authentic and breaks very easily.

 

To me it looks quite authentic compared to my approx. 800 other fossils.

Sorry to break it to you but you have been duped. AsiaMuseum is the username of the seller on (everybody’s favourite auction site) but they have no ties as far as I know with any actual natural history museums and often sell fabricated/ heavily restored fossils. Also as @Troodon said COA are pretty much worthless.

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7 minutes ago, indominus rex said:

Sorry to break it to you but you have been duped. AsiaMuseum is the username of the seller on (everybody’s favourite auction site) but they have no ties as far as I know with any actual natural history museums and often sell fabricated/ heavily restored fossils. Also as @Troodon said COA are pretty much worthless.

 

If thats the case he has the ability to return it

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2 hours ago, Troodon said:

Look COA's are worthless documents when it comes to fossils, anyone can print one saying anything they want.  Asian museum? Where?

There is no bone detail in your specimen its carved out of the matrix.  

Compare this one to yours

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I have got a cast of that one, never knew how red the original is. Can you tell me where the original is?

Best regards,

J

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3 hours ago, Mahnmut said:

I have got a cast of that one, never knew how red the original is. Can you tell me where the original is?

Best regards,

J

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1 hour ago, oilshale said:

The original is in the Goldfuss Museum in Bonn, Germany.

https://idw-online.de/de/news705874

https://www.ifgeo.uni-bonn.de/museen/goldfuss-museum/fossil-des-jahres-2021

Thats funny, I live in Bonn.

It seems it has been lent to other museums for some time and is back now. have to see when they open.

Sorry for distracting from the OPs  Pterosaur, but to come back to him, there are good replicas to be had for little money!

Best Regards,

J

 

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The thing that stuck out to me was how solid the "skull" looks.  Pterosaur skulls and the other bones are more fragile than that as you can see in Troodon's photo.  You would need an artist very knowledgeable about pterosaur anatomy to fake that.  It would be too much work and it couldn't look too good.  Even the bones of one of the larger pterosaurs like Pteranodon are fragile and they tend to be found mostly crushed.  You're lucky to find a nice, identifiable bone end.

 

Before anyone buys an apparent pterosaur skeleton, you need to know what one looks like.  Some bones are inevitably missing, some are damaged or out of place.  You need to become your own expert on something like that because there's never a pterosaur expert around when you need one.  I'm lucky.  One of my friends who knows what to look for used to live about 25 miles away.  He moved out-of-state but I have another friend about as far away who could help me as well if I have a chance to buy a bone or a skeleton.

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Thanks man

 

the skull is almost missing and just the outlines are visible. Teeth are just needle scratches. Bones, when raked with a needle sound almost hollow. not all bones are there.

 

 

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