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Is this fossilized bone?


Brad1978

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This was found in a cave in Vance.  It has a mineral growth on it that glows a neon yellow color under a uv light.  The camera makes it appear green but here are some photos.  Tell me what y'all think.

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Hi,

 

Calcareous concretions.

 

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1 minute ago, Brad1978 said:

What mineral glows on it?  Is it phosphorus?

Most often, these are composed of calcium carbonate.

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A mineral that reacts under a fluorescent lamp is called fluorescent. Phosphorus is the fact of rendering light on a more or less short duration in the dark after being stimulated to light. Many calcite of different origins react to UV.
 
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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
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Most of the time it is the impurities contained in a mineral that cause fluorescence.

 

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Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

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Maybe it's a composite material, men- made intervention on weathered limestone formation (speleothem) used for orientation purposes in dark environments like caves.(?)

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Well quartz is piezoelectric and it glows red under a UV light and retains the glow for a few seconds after removing the light source.  Isn't this different than fluorescence?  I thought fluorecence is from minerals like phosphorus.  So wouldn't quartz be considered just piezoelectric discharge or is it chemiluminescence.  And like if you smack a sugar cube really hard with a hammer in the dark it emits blue light for a split second

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Hi Brad,

emitting visible light when absorbing energy from ultraviolet light or other radiation is called fluorescence,

many minerals do that, and as Coco stated above in most cases its the impurities that cause the effect, so not all specimens of a mineral show the same effect.

Emitting light for some time after the exposure is called phosphorescence, but its not what gives phosphorus its name glow. (phos-phor simply means carrying light in Greek, so thats the historical root for both terms)

Chemiluminescence is what causes white phosphorus to glow, the energy emitted as light results from the slow oxidation of the element.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence#Etymology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminescence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus#Chemiluminescence

What you have there is most probably calcite sinter, a form of  speleothem as Kane mentioned.

 To tell if it contains bone (possible, but rare) pictures of the most bone-like parts in daylight would help.

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J

 

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