FossilFiene Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 James River, Missouri 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It is a crinoid calyx. The original calcite is dissolved away leaving a cast and sediment infill. 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Wow. You don't see these guys that far out on a limb often. It definitely could be correct, but the indications are a bit thin, don't you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Rockwood said: Wow. You don't see these guys that far out on a limb often. It definitely could be correct, but the indications are a bit thin, don't you think ? Not really. I think Eric @Al Dente is correct. Here is a smaller one of similar shape. 1 2 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Rockwood said: It definitely could be correct, but the indications are a bit thin, don't you think ? Did you enlarge the photo? It looks like there are impressions of the plates. 1 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The context does fit, and the shape is not inconsistent, so I'm not calling it wrong. I still call it weak though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 crinoid calyx was my first impression as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Rockwood said: The context does fit, and the shape is not inconsistent, so I'm not calling it wrong. I still call it weak though. I think it is a fairly strong case, with shape and size considered, as well as the associated lumen cast and columnal imprints. 2 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I can't think of anything it might be, other than an internal mold of a crinoid calyx. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, FossilDAWG said: I can't think of anything it might be, other than an internal mold of a crinoid calyx. Don I'm still not calling anyone wrong about the identification. Scientifically this is a weak argument, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It looks like a crinoidal limestone with nice parts of crinoid elements. I'm in the camp of crinoid. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Hi, because they don't have a hard wrap like, for exemple coconuts, strawberries can't fossilize in three dimensions. I'm on the crinoid camp on this one. Nice spécimen. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Rockwood said: I'm still not calling anyone wrong about the identification. Scientifically this is a weak argument, however. Do you have an alternative hypothesis which could be tested? 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, paleoflor said: Do you have an alternative hypothesis which could be tested? Sure, fossil strawberry (sorry, could not resist...) . Franz Bernhard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, FranzBernhard said: Sure, fossil strawberry (sorry, could not resist...) . Franz Bernhard Walked right into that one! 1 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, paleoflor said: Do you have an alternative hypothesis which could be tested? No. I think it's most likely a crinoid calyx. I just find it entertaining the way everyone so resists that tiny bit of questioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Rockwood said: No. I think it's most likely a crinoid calyx. I just find it entertaining the way everyone so resists that tiny bit of questioning. Contesting a supposition is useful if you have an alternative idea or you are pointing out a flaw in the rationale for an ID. Doing it for amusement is often not appreciated as much online as it might be understood in person. 1 4 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Contesting a supposition You all seem to have created the contest. I think a little chill is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rockwood said: You all seem to have created the contest. I think a little chill is in order. We're fine, Dale...just some observations. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Strawberry shaped fossilized internal mold of a crinoid calyx . Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob1950 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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