Rocky998 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) So, I have a nice collection of fossils ive found from 2 seperate trips to Aurora... I was told the straight and curved bones could be ribs (most likely dolphin), but I am unsure. I also have a 2-3 inch bone that lolks like it could be from a land animal. I also have 3 different vertebrates from something... One is medium-small, one is small, and then the other one is really small lol. Then, in the last picture and in the middle of the row... I have no idea what it could be, it looks like an imprimt of a plant maybe? I found another one and its red, but I forget where I put it... At the beginning of that same row it seems to be sharks teeth but their all on a row... And the last fossil on that row looks to be a dolphin tooth. (Sorry I know its a lot of fossils.... We can knock them out one at a time, right? ) Edited January 14, 2022 by Rocky998 Forgot to add some things in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Maybe what's in the center of this pic is a puffer fish mouth plate fragment. 2 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Maybe what's in the center of this pic is a puffer fish mouth plate fragment. WOW! I would have never guessed that... Thank you for that knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On the left of the second, maybe a shark vertebra ? 1 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, fifbrindacier said: On the left of the second, maybe a shark vertebra ? That would be cool if it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Rocky998 said: So, I have a nice collection of fossils ive found from 2 seperate trips to Aurora... I was told the straight and curved bones could be ribs (most likely dolphin), but I am unsure. I also have a 2-3 inch bone that lolks like it could be from a land animal. I also have 3 different vertebrates from something... One is medium-small, one is small, and then the other one is really small lol. Then, in the last picture and in the middle of the row... I have no idea what it could be, it looks like an imprimt of a plant maybe? I found another one and its red, but I forget where I put it... At the beginning of that same row it seems to be sharks teeth but their all on a row... And the last fossil on that row looks to be a dolphin tooth. (Sorry I know its a lot of fossils.... We can knock them out one at a time, right? ) Hi, Bottom middle looks like a cetacean humerus to me. Best regards, J 1 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Mahnmut said: Bottom middle looks like a cetacean humerus to me. Yes, likely Baleen whale, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/gallery/image/19656-large-whale-humerus-from-north-carolina/ The 2 verts on the left of the 2nd photo look to be Sawfish, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/99225-sawfish-vert/ Here are a couple of experts I have learned from.... @Al Dente @MarcoSr 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Mahnmut said: Hi, Bottom middle looks like a cetacean humerus to me. Best regards, J 24 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: Yes, likely Baleen whale, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/gallery/image/19656-large-whale-humerus-from-north-carolina/ The 2 verts on the left of the 2nd photo look to be Sawfish, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/99225-sawfish-vert/ Here are a couple of experts I have learned from.... @Al Dente @MarcoSr I am no expert and I am not dismissing the fact that it could be a whale humerus, but I looked at pictures of them and their all straight. My bone curves at a fairly sharp angle, I will try to get a pic of the curve later... But again, I am no expert, just forgot to mention the curve on that bone. I thank you both for the help! Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthicus Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 In the bottom photo, the left is a broken cow shark tooth, the middle looks like a puffer fish mouth plate, and the right is probably a dolphin or porpoise tooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Parthicus said: In the bottom photo, the left is a broken cow shark tooth, the middle looks like a puffer fish mouth plate, and the right is probably a dolphin or porpoise tooth. Thank you! I had no idea there was such a thing as a cow shark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 3:52 AM, Mahnmut said: Hi, Bottom middle looks like a cetacean humerus to me. Best regards, J On 1/15/2022 at 8:30 AM, Shellseeker said: Yes, likely Baleen whale, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/gallery/image/19656-large-whale-humerus-from-north-carolina/ The 2 verts on the left of the 2nd photo look to be Sawfish, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/99225-sawfish-vert/ Here are a couple of experts I have learned from.... @Al Dente @MarcoSr Sorry it took so long to get the picture... Man, time goes by when you're busy lol. Here is a pic of the possible humerus. The picture shows the curve on it, hopefully this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Ok, thats indeed no humerus. Hard to tell with the eroded ends, but maybe the zygomatic part of a squamosal bone? Best Regards, J 1 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mahnmut said: Ok, thats indeed no humerus. Hard to tell with the eroded ends, but maybe the zygomatic part of a squamosal bone? Best Regards, J Very well could be, but it seems a bit wide to be part of the skull (as you see in the first pic). It is definintely a strange bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Mahnmut said: Ok, thats indeed no humerus. Hard to tell with the eroded ends, but maybe the zygomatic part of a squamosal bone? Best Regards, J Hmmm, I see that word... Richard Hulbert introduced me to a word like it, in the link below. Richard's word was zygopophyses http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/117483-bones/&tab=comments#comment-1290438 6 hours ago, Rocky998 said: Very well could be, but it seems a bit wide to be part of the skull (as you see in the first pic). It is definintely a strange bone. Can you you retake your photo in bright light? Sunlight would do, or directly under a halogen bulb? It might or might not be similar to this: I can not tell. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: Hmmm, I see that word... Richard Hulbert introduced me to a word like it, in the link below. Richard's word was zygopophyses http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/117483-bones/&tab=comments#comment-1290438 Can you you retake your photo in bright light? Sunlight would do, or directly under a halogen bulb? It might or might not be similar to this: I can not tell. The bone I have looks very similar to that. I will try to get a picture tomorrow because it is dark out right now and I have no halogen bulb. Thanks for helping, I appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Rocky998 said: The bone I have looks very similar to that. I will try to get a picture tomorrow because it is dark out right now and I have no halogen bulb. Thanks for helping, I appreciate it! Ok, so maybe I got some right hint without knowing it... I was talking about the zygomatic arch that is part of the skull, but if Shellseekers specimen is a zygapophysis, that looks like a good match on first glance. Best Regards, J Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 6:43 AM, Mahnmut said: Ok, so maybe I got some right hint without knowing it... I was talking about the zygomatic arch that is part of the skull, but if Shellseekers specimen is a zygapophysis, that looks like a good match on first glance. Best Regards, J Sorry its taken so long, I hope these help with identifying. Here are a few photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Great Improvement on these photos, but I can not tell if the image I said was similar to mine is actually similar. After all we may be dealing with damaged fragments. There are some similarities, but in your other views of the fossil, there i almost no similarity. Your fossil seems to be a toe bone, mine is a process broken off a vertebra.. Not the same The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Rocky998 said: Sorry its taken so long, I hope these help with identifying. Here are a few photos: Looks like a small cetacean humerus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Al Dente said: Looks like a small cetacean humerus. I understand where you would think that, but the piece is curved too much for it to be a humerus. It really does look like the piece @Shellseeker showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rocky998 said: I understand where you would think that, but the piece is curved too much for it to be a humerus. It really does look like the piece @Shellseeker showed. I guess I'm not seeing the curvature that you are talking about. Does it show up in your photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Here are two cetacean humeri from the Yorktown Formation. They don’t have the eroded ends that your fossil has. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Rocky - These are the angles you should be taking of your item. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 I thank you for that and I agree, from the top of it, it looks a lot like a humerus, but from the side like in the picture at the bottom of the two, it is more curved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Rocky - These are the angles you should be taking of your item. which angles do you mean? top? or the curved sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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