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I just posted some colorful small shark teeth I found yesterday, but also went out Saturday. I had a number of finds which were small and I was not certain of their identification...

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1) An Epiphysis, which I think is a long bone "cap" for a juvenile mammal. Which bone?

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2.)  A possible claw... Could this be bear ?

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3) Looks like a Carpal or Tarsal, but not one that I have seen.   VERY light in weight.

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4) An odd Alligator or Crocodile Osteoderm. On the left of the 2nd photo, there is a flat section on the left edge, and then the increased slope to the center. possibly imagination, but it seems different from the average gator osteoderm.

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5) Finally , a very small fossil and definitely unknown to me

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Any comments and suggestions greatly appreciated... Jack

 

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6 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

I think that last fossil is an armadillo phalanx.

Thank you Harry,  This was the one that I thought most difficult to identify.  I may not get this without your assist..

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9 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

2.)  A possible claw... Could this be bear ?

Still not positive,  Let's see what @PrehistoricFlorida thinks !!!

These are a couple of his photos for Spectacled Bear Claw Core. My hunting friend handed it to me for Identification and then said.  You can have it .. It's broken.  Maybe he will want it back.

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13 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

but it seems different from the average gator osteoderm.

Hi Jack,

 

My first impression was that this was a bit of a (broken) cetacean epiphysis. 

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1 hour ago, Brett Breakin' Rocks said:

My first impression was that this was a bit of a (broken) cetacean epiphysis. 

Exactly what the guy I was hunting with said... I guess I am becoming EpiphysisMerge2.JPG.dacba95fbd848c71fb35b8e24c2672ed.JPGa believer... There is actually a "flat" area to the left of the red line and an area that is rising to the right.... but cetacean epiphysis it is....

 

Three Identified... 2 to go

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4 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

Bear claw for comparison:

Harry, Hopefully you are pointing out claw size for my attention.  This one is 27 mm in length (broken) and 25 mm in height.

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My 1st fossil epiphysis above is just under 37 mm, and is about half the size of the very similar Equus Radius proximal you show in this thread: Nannippus is too small.  The only larger tridactyl tooth came from Neohipparion eurystyle.  So I am thinking the ID here is Tridactyl Radius Epiphysis. proximal end.

 

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Just starting to update photos.  I do this so another seeker can more easily find a Epiphysis that turns out to be the distal end of a Radius leg bone of a Tridactyl horse, larger than Nannippus...

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or a bear claw,

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or an armadillo phalanx

 

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maybe a marine vertebra Epiphysis

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That's 4 of 5 Identifications.  One more to go.  It will nag my brain until I get the identification. 

 

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On 2/24/2022 at 10:15 PM, Shellseeker said:

3) Looks like a Carpal or Tarsal, but not one that I have seen.   VERY light in weight.

This last fossil is an Alligator Calcaneum... I do not recall ever finding one before, at least not in this shape.  All in ALL a great hunting trip...

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On 2/26/2022 at 2:49 PM, Shellseeker said:

Just starting to update photos.  I do this so another seeker can more easily find a Epiphysis that turns out to be the distal end of a Radius leg bone of a Tridactyl horse, larger than Nannippus...

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or a bear claw,

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or an armadillo phalanx

 

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#2 - Beyond the rough general shape, it does not resemble a claw core (ungual). Definitely not a bear ungual. 

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2 hours ago, PrehistoricFlorida said:

 

 

#2 - Beyond the rough general shape, it does not resemble a claw core (ungual). Definitely not a bear ungual. 

Thanks,   Always good to know what a fossil is NOT.  I will have to get more knowledge on what claw cores look like....

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The second third photos are indeed distal epiphysis (wrist end) of a horse radius. I have a partial radius from N. peninsulatus and it is smaller then 37.8mm. The only other Blancan? Hipparion about the size of your fossil would be Cormohipparion emslliei . If so it would be a rare find.

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