MacHoffman22 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 This was found by my friend in the West River area of SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Bactulite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 That would be Bacculite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Bactulites is a genus. Ya can't just drop the s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Fourth time’s a charm: Baculites. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculites 2 2 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacHoffman22 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 I appreciate all the help. At least we have the right general idea amongst everyone. My friend said he found multiple on a gravel road. Makes me wonder where the gravel is coming from to contain such large fossils or if the many specimens he has, somehow deposited themselves there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I see it spelled with two c's and no s more than not, this example from researchgate. If it's ok with them it's ok with me. . Figure B-5: Fossilized shells fragment in Pierre shale. Bacculite and ammonite shell fragments , as well as concretions, were very common in Pierre shale outcrop samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 But do you know how Pierre is pronounced ? Maybe it's French ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, DPS Ammonite said: Fourth time’s a charm: Baculites. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculites Check the dictionary, a single member of the genus is a bactulite. Hold the s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) It appears that there is some common usage of baculite (one c and no t) for a member of the genus Baculites. I have heard of Baculite Mesa in Colorado , but not Baculites Mesa. I see usage of ceratite, goniatite and ammonite as common names for similarly named taxa. Informal usage of baculite is probably OK as a common name and not a genus. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/baculite Edited March 14, 2022 by DPS Ammonite My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Lamarck originally gave this species the name Baculites in 1799 in Mêm. Soc. H. n. Paris page 80, so I suppose that is the correct spelling. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Rockwood said: Check the dictionary, a single member of the genus is a bactulite. Hold the s. No T in there, Dale. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: No T in there, Dale. Agreed. I hadn't noticed that I made the same mistake after I just looked it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Rockwood said: Agreed. I hadn't noticed that I made the same mistake after I just looked it up. Merely the blessings of advanced age. Gets me right between the eyes at times as well. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Does this we mean we can change the name someone gives an entire genus any time we like? I thought you had to submit a paper for that Of course casual conversation is not the same as science speak but it never hurts to get used to passing along information that is as correct as possible and the "s" is part of the name given by the person who went to all the trouble of researching it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Must we call you Robert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Plax said: Must we call you Robert? As long as you always italicize it when writing or speaking his name. Related note: always italicize Baculites to let everyone know that you are referring to a formal genera and not a common name. I am so thankful that we don’t have to italicize mineral species. Edited March 14, 2022 by DPS Ammonite My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Baculites, baculite maybe ? One still wouldn't want to diss Webster's now would one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Rockwood said: Baculites, baculite maybe ? One still wouldn't want to diss Webster's now would one. Actually, yes. It turns out Webster employs a full-time crew correcting mistakes. When you give a name to a genus it cannot be a mistake, you get to decide. It may help to get used to pronouncing it the way I've always heard it from professional paleontologists. back- you- light'- ease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Rockwood said: Baculites, baculite maybe ? One still wouldn't want to diss Webster's now would one. Dictionaries should have the official taxon name along with (in most cases) the common name which is often closely related by spelling. Look at the Wikipedia entry for the Baculites taxon. Here is my list of the taxon name and common name pairs: Animalia/animal Mollusca/mollusc Cephalopoda/cephalopod Ammonoidea/ammonoid Ammonitida/ammonite Baculitidae/baculitid Baculites/baculite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculites 1 1 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 But where are all the baculitids ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Here is a common one from north Texas: Edited March 15, 2022 by DPS Ammonite My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Ah. Family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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