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Need the Teeth Experts, Peace River, Small Vertebrate Teeth ID help needed.


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Hi Folks, 

 

Lately I have been finding a lot of small teeth in my sifter. Most are damaged and that doesn't help trying to ID them. I lack a reference collection and the necessary books to compare these to, so I am asking for some help from our resident Peace River and vertebrate experts.

 

My photos aren't the best and I know that doesn't help, but I did my best with my dated camera and hand tremors. I have numbered the teeth in the photos and will provide notes for them below :

 

1) This is a complete tooth and a very attractive little guy. 

 

2) This is a tiny complete tooth and I do not think it is a fossil.

 

3) This is a crown only. The roots are missing.

 

4) The crown is missing on this one. It's roots only and probably cannot be identified.

 

5) Broken tooth.

 

6) Broken tooth.

 

7) Crown only, no root.

 

8) Crown only, no root.

 

9) Broken small horse tooth or something along those lines.

 

10) Broken small horse tooth or something similar. 

 

 

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Cropped and brightened:

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Hi,

 

1 hour ago, Bone Daddy said:

 

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Looks like lagomorph.

 

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Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
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GROUP IMAGES of more than a few fossils are not effective. The more individual fossils in an image, the greater the amount of tabletop is in the image. Viewers cannot see the details of a fossil that might take up less than five percent of the total image. Photograph a single fossil (or two or three, if they're tiny), and post that image.

 

LIGHT IT UP. Use as much ambient light as possible to reduce shadows...two light sources are a minimum. Eliminate yellowed images caused by tungsten filament bulbs by switching to the new compact flourescent bulbs. CFLs come in a "daylight" (6500K) version that you can use in any (non-dimming) fixture and produce very little heat. Some LEDs produce a near-daylight effect.

 

ELIMINATE SHADOWS by elevating the fossil on a glass or colorless plastic stage a couple of inches above the background. Illuminate the fossil AND THE BACKGROUND in this configuration. There are numerous things around the house to use for this purpose, from scrap window-glass to disposable plastic food/drink containers.

BRIGHTEN AND CONTRAST. BRIGHTEN the image until the fossil appears slightly washed, then adjust the CONTRAST until the fossil is bright and sharp and is a good color-match. Practice this until you get a feel for it.

CROP, CROP, CROP. Again, use the image-editing software to crop the image to only what is pertinent. Leave only a narrow margin around the fossil. The more of your kitchen counter-top in the image, the smaller the fossil image will be.

 

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So from the top,  #9 and #10 are split half of Bison/Bos teeth.

#6, #7, #8 are either LlamaCamel or deer depending on size. Need closeups to differentiate Hemiauchenia from Palaeolama.

#5 is a camel P4 premolar (education by Harry)

#4 may be a bear molar

#1 is a camel p4 premolar (education by Harry)

 

#2 is predator,, get better , more photos,  also on #3

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5 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

So from the top,  #9 and #10 are split half of Bison/Bos teeth.

#6, #7, #8 are either LlamaCamel or deer depending on size. Need closeups to differentiate Hemiauchenia from Palaeolama.

#5 is a camel P4 premolar (education by Harry)

#4 may be a bear molar

#1 is a camel p4 premolar (education by Harry)

 

#2 is predator,, get better , more photos,  also on #3

 

Thanks Jack. You have an experienced eye for Peace River teeth. I think it was you who helped me ID my pygmy sperm whale tooth also.  :)

 

I was most curious about #1 because it's complete and quite pretty, despite it's small size. I thought it might be too small for a camelid, but perhaps it's a juvenile.

 

I don't think I have ever found any bear teeth, that would be cool. It's a pity that one is only a root with almost no crown.

 

 

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