Pebble Evolving.

[Fossildude19]

And... Still a rock.

[Kane]

Agreed. It may be time to set this one aside and go collecting. 

[Top Trilo]

Agreed, I even see one that looks like a trilobite

[Buddhabelly]

Lads thank you one and all. I know it comes across as stupid. I promise I will not do the same again. I was all too aware of the most likely probability of it being something of nothing, but from it I researched different stones, agates etc, learnt about conchordial fracturing, archaic chines scripts and artifacts, how to use my wife's make-up amongst other things to define the cracks. I also learnt new words to describe my madness from the forum also!!! So thanks all.  

 

P.S I just realised I saw an image of God in it!!!! It is destined to be a place of worship when it gets categorized as a holy relic!!!! 

 

Thanks all, I really mean it. I think it's time to put this one aside and go hunting as recommended. 

[Buddhabelly]

Enlarged, light box and traced!!! Dunno? 

      

[JohnJ]

On 4/24/2021 at 11:14 AM, Buddhabelly said:

Thanks all, I really mean it. I think it's time to put this one aside and go hunting as recommended. 

 

I would bet that you can find another stone, where you found this one, that exhibits complex, conchodial fractures.  Some of them will appear to be designs or writing.  Pursuing it beyond inspiration for your own art project is a rabbit hole of belief without evidence.

[Randyw]

I’m sorry. I gotta come right out and say it. No beating around the bush...

THIS IS NOT WRITING. THESE ARE NATURAL OCCURRING FRACTURES.

you can get a similar effect if you put ink on a block of uncooked ramen noodles and press a pieces of paper to it....

[Buddhabelly]

Hi correct not writing. A dragon. Also on another side where I was just pondering if the lines looked like characters, I just realised earlier I was looking at wrong. There is another I think double dragon. There is a quite detailed fish on another side, with varying degrees of depth for different parts of its body, i.e. the tail at the back has three perfectly placed lines running to define the tail, there is a smaller fin underneath that to the side, with the same three lines, the eye is raised and defined as an eye where an eye should be, there is a raised gill/ fin where that should go also. There is what looks like the head of a snake with staggered like body. The forked tongue is done perfectly and the whole design is not dissimilar to a belt hook. The dragon on the side appears to be holding what could represent a pearl in its claw, the interlocking dragon at the backs, head is pointed towards what looks like a dicky bow type object, pearl with wings so to speak. This is an extremely hard little stone which I have tried to scratch with a few different objects of varying hardness, i.e compasses, hand tools and with no success, obvious and y weary of damaging it regardless of it just being a pebble. There are more features but I will not get into them until I have better resources to study it with better equipment. It has a dark green/black bronze look to it. I know somebody said if it was a certain type of stone it would be too brittle to carve, but this is not brittle, and object like this were not necessarily carved, but often drilled by hand using sand and an abrasive for grinding. The way jade would have been tooled. It's a shame y the u cabt see it in person and see the detail. I cant capture it on my phone. It's definitely a fish on the side. The detail is cool but I cant show it at the moment. I'm not trying to force this on anyone. Like I said if I can learn so much from a little pebble then isn't that just amazing. I am always happy to take the ###### out of myself and it be taken out of by others. I am simply sharing what I am finding or not finding along with info to research from answers here and it's still leaving holes where things need to be answered further. Sure isn't that what geology is about, not just seeing stones but finding out all the wonderful things that the natural world has to offer. Otherwise everybody would just be walking on the beach kicking a load of stones, and querying nothing!!! I'll come out of this with more knowledge than I came in with and will have learnt so much from the forum and a tiny little pebble!! Thanks Lads.

 

[Kane]

Occam’s Razor

[Buddhabelly]

5 minutes ago, Kane said:

Occam’s Razor

That was lovely info, nice one. I appreciate it. 

[JohnJ]

22 minutes ago, Buddhabelly said:

Hi correct not writing. A dragon. Also on another side where I was just pondering if the lines looked like characters, I just realised earlier I was looking at wrong. There is another I think double dragon. There is a quite detailed fish on another side, with varying degrees of depth for different parts of its body, i.e. the tail at the back has three perfectly placed lines running to define the tail, there is a smaller fin underneath that to the side, with the same three lines, the eye is raised and defined as an eye where an eye should be, there is a raised gill/ fin where that should go also. There is what looks like the head of a snake with staggered like body. The forked tongue is done perfectly and the whole design is not dissimilar to a belt hook. The dragon on the side appears to be holding what could represent a pearl in its claw, the interlocking dragon at the backs, head is pointed towards what looks like a dicky bow type object, pearl with wings so to speak.

 

As a science-based forum, we don't promote fantasy.  If varying versions of these ideas are what you are committed too, then please understand we will lock the topic.

[Buddhabelly]

No not all, sorry. I am not promoting this as being anything other than a pebble as well. The dialogue is promoting learning, albeit in a round about fashion!! I've said all along I am sure it is no more than a pebble, but by learning about conchoidal fractures etc is teaching me about geology and the science behind it. I thought I was making that clear in my replies to people. I am not fighting people with fantasy, but my comments have given space for scientific reasoning and learning, and all from a little pebble.... so it's purely about learning, in a silly kinda fashion. 

[JohnJ]

18 minutes ago, Buddhabelly said:

it's purely about learning

 

We enjoy and encourage learning around here.    However, I respectfully suggest that the fantasy designs and writing have run their course.

 

 

[Buddhabelly]

Yea sorry Lads, wasn't my intention to frustrate or annoy anybody. I did learn a lot so thanks. I am going to turn it into a pendant as a constant reminder to cop on!!! Thanks.

[Buddhabelly]

Hi all, just a quick question. Trying to ascertain what the stone may be? Can anyone help? Sorry I am trying not to be bothering folks but I could use some suggestions. Google is great but difficult when you don't know what to search for!!! Thanks.   P.S sorry about the photos, best I could do with very limited resources and a limited amount of hands!! Thanks.

 

    

 

    

 

 

    

 

  

[Kane]

Is this the same rock, but with spooky photo versions?  

[Buddhabelly]

Yea sorry. I hadn't realised it was translucent, if that's the correct term, at the time of posting other photos. Just wondering if it helps to identify it at all?  Thanks for the reply. 

[Buddhabelly]

I was going through a bag of stones I had collected a while ago, flint, pudding stones, jaspers and looking at them through a cheap as you can get digital microscope, until I put this under and realised it seemed to glow somewhat. Just trying to learn more. Thanks. 

[JohnJ]

Most likely a form of chalcedony.

[Buddhabelly]

Thanks for the reply. 

For further consideration please see attached photos. Could it be a snake fossil? 

Thanks

 

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[Randyw]

No

[JohnJ]

As @Randyw said...no.

 

You're just seeing patterns in the shadows of conchodial fractures.

 

Go to the same place and pick up several other pieces of chalcedony and flint. Then, expose them to the same scrutiny you've given this piece.

 

If it was any other kind of fossil, our members would have been more than happy to point it out or suggest a possibility to pursue. 

 

It's time to move on to different finds rather than forcing this piece to be endless variations of something it's not. 

 

This topic is locked.

 

Unlocking this topic and merging it with Richard's new registration and topic.

[Poor Richard]

Hi all my name is Richard, A.K.A "the fella with the pebble"!

 

Not sure if I posted on this or another forum, but wherever it was I received some replies and then the thread got closed because to whomever that decided, decided I had, had my answer..... 

 

Sound!

 

I found a pebble over a year ago on a beach in Wexford. I just saw all the variations of pebbles on the beach and thought... I'm gonna have a look at them there pebbles. Sorted. I collected a load, and one stood out when I got back and cleaned them. So a year on I have had giggles, looks and ridicule for this pebble, with some genuine interest just for random sake through conversations and the oddity scenario of me and said pebble. So I got it 3D scanned, with further looks of confusion from employee but with intrigue as to why?

But I didn't realise I'd have to apply the textures to the 3d model myself, why? Coz I haven't got a bleedin clue when it comes to it. Further confusion. I continued my quest with pebble, I invested in the cheapest little digital microscope that I could hook up to my not so great phone.... I know..."first world problems... "the struggle is real". Sound. 

I bought a torch that could focus light when you keep the button pressed. 

Sound.

I downloaded an app for UV or some weird light for images.

Sound. 

I posted loads of images and got slightly mocked for showing the same pebble... only with filters!!!

Sound. 

"I know this is not show and tell extended story time, but it's a funny oddity of a little story, so hopefully somebody may get amusement from it"?

 

I have thousands of photos of this pebble, filters an all!! In order to try and use what was at my disposal to capture every line both within and without. 

 

So Granny May last year. Leaving the gaff before getting in de car on the way to the funeral, I realised I had black trousers on, and that pebble was in a pocket... that's a fine and quick way to lose a pebble. So I wasn't going back in the house so I decided I'd bury it, which I did. 

I got drunk later and forgot where I had put it in the coming days.

Sound. 

A year later and I had checked the garden, under the shed, the house etc.. getting prepared to have to report it as missing and put out a reward.

 

I looked just outside the house a few days ago, routed through an area at a little Bush, where I felt I may have wrapped it in a bag and buried it. I couldn't find it but kept three pebbles out of the area I had looked. Day before yesterday and I'm in the shed and I notice a stone under a 6 socket extension lead on my bench. Anyway I looked and looked and realised it was the pebble I'd buried a year ago but completely not the pebble I buried a year ago!!! WHAAT!! 

 

So I can only guess after a search that a year under the soil, where the cat uses, acidity of some kind over a year? 

So many questions...

 

I didn't know who to share it with, I'm waiting on replies from people as I only found it again, transformed a couple of days ago, so here's hoping I can at last get some clarification, and with your knowledge, curiosity and any support we can get to the bottom of it 

 

I'll attach pictures for your interest/ mockery. I was pure chuffed lads when I found it, and the fact it had changed and ended up in front of me, without realising it initially is "Sound". 

 

Plus any advice on what the heck this could be, would be genuinely appreciated lads. Time period? Species or stone type in the event it still is just a pebble, which I will hold to be the case until I get it authenticated. I've been onto Trinity College and awaiting reply. It is a genuine story, but based around trying to find out what this is. I hope you all take it as a fact finding mission with a good dose of random.

 

I've still yet to be able to apply the textures to the 3d model!! 

 

I have attached filtered images because why not, and they helped me identify all the lines, and depths that the naked eye could not see, it took bleedin ages, so I hope someone appreciates and can help. 

Cheers. 

 

 

[FB003]

Honestly do not know what to say except that it sounds like a journey lol. As long as you enjoyed it, thats what matters.  With any luck, maybe someone will chime in and say it's not a pebble.

[Kane]

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