Carboniferous (Pennsylvanian) Plants

[Lucid_Bot]

Howdy! Just posting some of my finds for ID. Feel free to correct or specify. I can provide dimensions if needed as it's hard to get good pics with a measure of some of these. The first two look like Asterophyllites to me. The third, fourth and fifth, I'd guess Sphenopteroids (the fourth is only 1 cm from top to bottom). The sixth I think is Annularia. The rest I believe are Neuropteroids.

[connorp]

1 and 2 are Asterophyllites. 3, 4, and 5 are Aphlebia or Rhacophyllum. 6 is Annularia. 7 is Alethopteris. 8 and 10 are probably Neuropteris. 9 could be Macroneuropteris. To get specific IDs you would need to search the literature.

[Lucid_Bot]

14 minutes ago, connorp said:

1 and 2 are Asterophyllites. 3, 4, and 5 are Aphlebia or Rhacophyllum. 6 is Annularia. 7 is Alethopteris. 8 and 10 are probably Neuropteris. 9 could be Macroneuropteris. To get specific IDs you would need to search the literature.

I never heard of Aphlebia or Rhacophyllum. I don't find many of them. 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Some of those are very nice pieces.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Tidgy's Dad

[paleoflor]

Specimen 4 does not immediately strike me as Aphlebia-Rhacophyllum type material. The rachides of both orders seem well-developed. The main rachis is fairly constant in thickness. The rachides bearing the pinnules even appears to have a clear three-dimensionality to them (i.e., non-flat or laminate). Unfortunately, no scale is provided on the photograph, but I would tentatively agree with the OP and look for IDs in the direction of "fine fern-like" fronds, e.g., sphenopterid and Rhodea-type foliage or allied forms. Things like the genus Sphyropteris come to mind?

[Lucid_Bot]

6 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Some of those are very nice pieces.

Thank you. I've been very lucky in my hunts. The outcrops in my area keep dropping fossiliferous shale. Now I have hundreds of fossils (including some large plates) and I don't even have space for it all in my house. My big question now is: how to preserve these things?

[Tidgy's Dad]

1 hour ago, Lucid_Bot said:

Thank you. I've been very lucky in my hunts. The outcrops in my area keep dropping fossiliferous shale. Now I have hundreds of fossils (including some large plates) and I don't even have space for it all in my house. My big question now is: how to preserve these things?

Not a clue about prepping these, my pins won't do. 

I'd leave (leaf) them, frankly. 

[Lucid_Bot]

1 hour ago, paleoflor said:

The rachides bearing the pinnules even appears to have a clear three-dimensionality to them (i.e., non-flat or laminate). Unfortunately, no scale is provided on the photograph

Sorry, which specimen would you like scale for?

[Fossildude19]

9 minutes ago, Lucid_Bot said:

Sorry, which specimen would you like scale for?

 

I think they are talking about 3, 4, and 5.

[paleoflor]

14 hours ago, Lucid_Bot said:

The third, fourth and fifth, I'd guess Sphenopteroids (the fourth is only 1 cm from top to bottom).

 

I was talking about No. 4 and just noticed you in fact did make a comment on the size of this specimen, so no further need to provide a scale on the image.