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Peace River Mystery Molar


GarethGP

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Hey so I got a grab bag of Peace River teeth and this was by far the biggest. I thought bison at first but it seems too big and bulky, but I'm open to being wrong. Pics below. 

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I thought surprising the piano keyboard to take the measurements, and then I saw the graduations I guess these are thumbs ?

 

I don’t see any teeth on this sample, there’s no enamel, and the sides don’t match a tooth, in my opinion.

 

Coco

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I'd be surprised if it wasn't a tooth or something animal at least. There are patterned lines on it that almost look like Schreger lines on a tusk (I'm not thinking tusk). More pics below. I'm glad you noticed the ruler lol, my wife is a music major!

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Oh yes, these brands are curious, wait for the proboscidian specialists opinions.

 

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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4 minutes ago, Coco said:

Oh yes, these brands are curious, wait for the proboscidian specialists opinions.

 

Coco

 

Thank you!

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Gareth,

You do not have enamel so you don't have tooth.  But , Schreger lines you have. so  proboscidian tusk is what you have  !!!  That's pretty good.  You would have to  mark your third photo, but it looks close to 90 degrees

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7 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Gareth,

You do not have enamel so you don't have tooth.  But , Schreger lines you have. so  proboscidian tusk is what you have  !!!  That's pretty good.  You would have to  mark your third photo, but it looks close to 90 degrees

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Wow that's incredible, thank you! Was it just gomphotheres, southern mammoths and mastodon in that area at the time?

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6 minutes ago, GarethGP said:

Wow that's incredible, thank you! Was it just gomphotheres, southern mammoths and mastodon in that area at the time?

The Peace River is generally considered a Pliocene_Pleistocene mix of fossils. The 3 possibilities are Mammoth,  Mastodon, and Gomphothere. But to deal in reality, over a decade of extensive hunting of the Peace River,  I have found ONE Gomphothere fossil,  and that was a fragment of a tusk.

The photo I added has a Schreger line angle around 135 degrees, and comes from a Gomphothere named Rynchotherium. It was not found in the Peace River.

You have either Mammoth or Mastodon, the more common Pleistocene species.  I believe it to be mammoth.  @darrow

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That was really helpful! Thank you for your informative post. I guess I lucked into a little bit of (probably) mammoth tusk!

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