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Done Drillin

Hoping to get some help identifying some finds from this weekends hunt. The second piece is pretty beat up but I hope there is enough left for an Id. The third is a tiny intact bone that may or may not be fossilized. Thank you! 

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Done Drillin

Sorry - the third one is the worn, beat up piece

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Shellseeker

Welcome to the Fossil Forum.

Some suggestions:

1) Make it easier to figure out measurements.  Line up one end of the fossil with a measurement line. Example, I have to drop it down to a 1 CM line to figure out the length. Why don't you do that and state in words the length... "This toe bone is 21 millimeters in length." That is a lot faster for the many people looking at your finds.

2) Take all photos is light as bright as you can ... Direct sunlight or a Halogen bulb. Years ago, I set up a floor lamp with halogen bulb to shine down on a desk top.

Look at this thread .. paying attention to the photo clarity.

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/78811-medial-phalanx/

I think your photo is a toe bone called a "medial phalanx"... Just do a search for Medial Phalanx and see if you agree. I will try to find which mammal has one the size of yours.

1st impressions: Alligator with root .. It is rare to find them with the root.  Please provide a photo pointed directly at the open root end,

2nd.  Horse (Equus .sp Incisor)

3rd likely a battered upper cheek horse tooth. 

 

Looks like a good weekend.  Maybe just in time.. The river and creeks are up a couple of feet. May be end of season.  MUCH harder to hunt in high water moving fast.

 

 

 

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Done Drillin

Ok thanks - not sure if these are any improvement ! The tip end is a triangular shape not at all conical like a gator - tried to show that in the new pics . I was more leaning toward peccary or maybe hog canine ?A3D9C858-2518-4D6E-8EDC-CE76F443D3EB.thumb.jpeg.03dd0f05a6945aa7d059c93acf3423d7.jpeg

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10 hours ago, Done Drillin said:

Ok thanks - not sure if these are any improvement ! The tip end is a triangular shape not at all conical like a gator - tried to show that in the new pics . I was more leaning toward peccary or maybe hog canine ?

It is certainly not a gator tooth, although I thought so off the initial photo:

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Your bone is pretty small.   A possible candidate that is close to the same size.

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Done Drillin

My photography (or lighting)certainly doesn’t help with the identification  - I will work to improve on that ! The size certainly looks right for the phalanx  - thank you for researching that.

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Done Drillin

Going back to the horse incisor- would this be an example of a senile specimen? I have several horse incisors but haven’t seen one that has been worn completely flat like this one - to me it appears to be occlusal wear and not “River” wear.

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PR0GRAM

Could the first tooth be a beaver or capybara incisor? I believe those are both found at Peace river.

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Shellseeker
2 hours ago, Done Drillin said:

Going back to the horse incisor- would this be an example of a senile specimen? I have several horse incisors but haven’t seen one that has been worn completely flat like this one - to me it appears to be occlusal wear and not “River” wear.

Here is an interesting post that has something to say about senile Horse Incisors:  Yours is a decent sized tooth but it is at my minimal size range for Equus incisors. It is not camel/llama but also could be bison/cow juvenile.

 

 

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Done Drillin

Great information! Thank you very much

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Done Drillin
8 hours ago, PR0GRAM said:

Could the first tooth be a beaver or capybara incisor? I believe those are both found at Peace river.

Certainly looks like it could be Capybara

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Harry Pristis

I think it's neither beaver nor capybara, both of which have incisors compressed front-to-back and no canines.

This may be a tayassuid (peccary) deciduous lower canine.  If so, it is an uncommon find.

 

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Done Drillin

That was my first impression - thank you sir ! Proudly displayed in my daughters curio

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