Jurassicz1 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Hello! I have a question. Recently I have started to purchase fossils from closed locations and countries that are now closed for fossil collecting. Can anyone tell me any good closed sites that I can purchase fossils from? I barely know any. I only know about these closed sites / countries. Chile Brazil Lee Creek Mine Bone Valley? I'm not sure if it is closed. Hopefully someone can tell me some good closed sites. Age and country / area does not matter Thanks Cheers - Adriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorp Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 There's a big difference between a mine that no longer allows collectors access, and a country that makes it illegal to export fossils. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meganeura Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Bone Valley isn’t closed - there’s still places to find stuff! 1 Fossils? I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassicz1 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, connorp said: There's a big difference between a mine that no longer allows collectors access, and a country that makes it illegal to export fossils. Yes I know. I'm looking for both. anything helps. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassicz1 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Meganeura said: Bone Valley isn’t closed - there’s still places to find stuff! Oh did not know that! Thanks. Cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C. Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Swatara PA (Rusty trilobites) St Clair PA (White ferns) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Most developing countries do not allow fossils to be exported, other than the two you mentioned… Mexico Argentina Peru Niger Tanzania Kenya ( i think) Italy Spain Mongolia China Canadian province of Alberta ... and I am sure there are a ton more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 There is a lot of Chilean material available that was exported before the ban so those can be commonly found on many sites. Even when it was legal to export fossils from Brazil they were not seen in this country so those may be extremely hard to find anywhere. Material from the Mine and Bone Valley is very common and you just need to search the internet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassicz1 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassicz1 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 5:18 AM, jpc said: spain Spain aswell? Never heard of them not allowing to export fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Jurassicz1 said: Spain aswell? Never heard of them not allowing to export fossils. This is what I have heard.... Any ne in Spain here can confirm either way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The search for fossils is strictly prohibited in Spain. So I imagine exporting too 1 http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB003 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Even searching? Wow. 1 *Frank* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, FB003 said: Even searching? Wow. Maybe its some mistranslation, @caterpillar? I can not really imaging that it is forbidden wandering around and photographing fossils that are lying free on the ground or are embedded in open rock faces. Its a country of the EU, after all! Happy to be in Austria, also EU. Franz Bernhard Edited June 28, 2022 by FranzBernhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Rarely do I see any material available for sales from Spain at fossil shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Troodon said: Rarely do I see any material available for sales from Spain at fossil shows. Do you see Austrian material ? Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, FranzBernhard said: Do you see Austrian material ? Franz Not really just seen a couple of shark teeth sold over the years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, FranzBernhard said: Maybe its some mistranslation, @caterpillar? I can not really imaging that it is forbidden wandering around and photographing fossils that are lying free on the ground or are embedded in open rock faces. Its a country of the EU, after all! Happy to be in Austria, also EU. Franz Bernhard Yeah, it is. I suspect Dominique was thinking of "chercher", which in French has the double meaning of "to search (for)" and "to collect". 2 hours ago, caterpillar said: The search for fossils is strictly prohibited in Spain. So I imagine exporting too But I too have heard that fossil hunting in Spain is strictly prohibited (even if, surprisingly, I have heard of one of two people who did/do). 1 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: I have heard of one of two people who did/do). Lets ask @Quer! At least, he has photographed Spanish fossils in the field. Unfortunately, his last activity was nearly 2 years ago. Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikokuryu Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 You get a lot of supposedly "lost" sites from old English and some American collections. I don't know if they really are literally lost, some become protected areas, but I've bought some the following locales. Someone more familiar, especially the English ammonite locales could tell you if this is accurate or not. It seems to me that England has a lot of lost sites, but I don't know if they really are lost or not. Just looking through screenshots and notes I have: Ammonites from Milborne Port, Sherborne, Dorset, UK Cretaceous Sharks from Wilmington Sands from White Hart Inn Pit, Wilmington, Devon, UK Pleistocene mammals from the Cotswold Water Park, Ashton Keynes, Wiltshire, UK Ammonites from South Cave, Hull, Yorkshire, UK Ammonites Eathie, Black Isle, Cromarty, Scotland Various Eocene-Oligocene mammals from Quercy Phosphorites Formation from Lot (Quercy), France Miocene Rodents from Gargano Terre Rosse Deposit / Mikrotia assemblage from Gargano, Foggia, Italy Cave Bears from Drachenhöhle, Mixnitz, Austria Not entirely sure: Marine reptiles from the Kimmeridge Clay from Wicklesham Pit, Faringdon, Oxfordshire, UK Pleistocene mammals from the Texas City dike, Texas, USA Sharks from Pyramid Hill from Bakersfield, California, USA (Slightly older deposit than STH?) I have no idea on this one, but the Triassic deposits from the Argana Group of Morocco are almost nonexistent for whatever reason. There was some pytosaur (as well as an Arganodus tooth I picked up) material, but it all seemed to be from an old collection? It could just be that Moroccan don't really care about obscure Triassic stuff or it is in a protected or inaccessible area. I was also unsure about the coal mines in Illinois that produce Edestus. Are they still active? Or do they restrict miners from taking fossils? I've heard a mix of both. Generally speaking, from countries that have banned their fossils for a while, you can still find ammonites from those countries that pop up from time to time. So if you want a little something from Argentina, Egypt, Peru, Spain, Mexico, etc, you might want to wait for an ammonite to show up. They also don't cost you an arm and a leg either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, FB003 said: Even searching? Wow. Italy, likewise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 In the uk, you’ll find of all the sites ever accessible, only a very small proportion are still available to the public, mining isn’t such a big thing anymore and safety regulations are strict so access to quarries is fairly rare and most have been filled in anyway in Victorian times there were pits all across the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 13 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: 15 hours ago, FranzBernhard said: Maybe its some mistranslation, @caterpillar? I can not really imaging that it is forbidden wandering around and photographing fossils that are lying free on the ground or are embedded in open rock faces. Its a country of the EU, after all! Happy to be in Austria, also EU. Franz Bernhard Yeah, it is. I suspect Dominique was thinking of "chercher", which in French has the double meaning of "to search (for)" and "to collect". 16 hours ago, caterpillar said: The search for fossils is strictly prohibited in Spain. So I imagine exporting too But I too have heard that fossil hunting in Spain is strictly prohibited (even if, surprisingly, I have heard of one of two people who did/do). Yes, you corrected for me. I was talking about fossil hunting. Only scientists have the right to dig, but with authorizations 1 http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassicz1 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 8:34 AM, Troodon said: Rarely do I see any material available for sales from Spain at fossil shows. Years ago, I used to see fossils from Spain at shows. I saw Miocene shark teeth from Rota and another site I can't recall at the moment plus some Miocene horse teeth from Teruel. A friend had a nice Carboniferous fern plate from Leon. I think I saw some trilobites too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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