Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I did lots of online searching on which states trilobites have and haven't been found in, and compiled this. Its not as straight forward as you might think. Green means trilobites have been found in that state on the surface and are native to that area. Yellow means technically a trilobite has been found there but was found below the surface or the rocks are not native to the state. Red means no trilobite has ever been found in the state except for when humans have transported them there. Green: Alaska, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming Yellow: Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota Red: Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii. No trilobites have been found in these states. The only trilobites in Florida and North Dakota came from cores that came from very far below the surface. Louisiana has trilobites from gravel that were transported via rivers from the Tennessee region. I have found very little references on trilobites coming from Oregon and Mississippi but have heard they exist. As far as Washington DC goes, I haven't seen anything that has said a trilobite has been found there but there are Paleozoic rocks at the surface according to macrostrat and trilobites have been found not too far away so I left it grey. Does anyone see anything incorrect with the above information? Before I undertook this task I knew trilobites were widespread but not this widespread. Trilobites are everywhere. I thought I'd share with the group. 6 7 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Here are the relevant citations on the trilobites from Mississippi and the lone taxon from Oregon: Cummingella oregonensis. This <LINK> has an extensive list of trilobite citations. Presently there are 16K+ entries (1835-2021) and previous years in process of being added every week. Use CTRL + F to activate the keyword search function for ease of use. Dockery, D.T., Merrill, R.K. 1984 Lower Devonian (Helderbergian) Trilobites from the Ross Limestone in Mississippi. Mississippi Geology, 5(2):11-15 PDF LINK Dockery, D.T., Starnes, J.E., Thompson, D.E., Beiser, L. 2008 Rocks and Fossils Found in Mississippi's Gravel Deposits. Mississippi Geological Survey, Circular, 7:1-25 PDF LINK Lowe, E.N. 1930 Paleozoic Rocks. Mississippi State Geological Survey Bulletin, 23:1-212 PDF LINK Merrill, R.K., Gann, D.E., Jennings, S.P. 1988 Tishomingo County Geology and Mineral Resources. Mississippi Department of Natural Resources, Bureau of Geology Bulletin, 127:1-178 PDF LINK Hahn, G., Hahn, R., Hanger, R.A., Strong, E.E. 2000 Lower Permian Trilobites from Oregon, USA. Geologica et Palaeontologica, 34:125-135 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I’m not aware of trilobites being found in North Carolina. The Precambrian Pteridinium was originally misidentified as a trilobite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C. Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Al Dente said: I’m not aware of trilobites being found in North Carolina. The Precambrian Pteridinium was originally misidentified as a trilobite. https://earth.geology.yale.edu/~ajs/1973/ajs_273A_11.pdf/196.pdf There seem to be a few references of trilobites being found in N.C. @Top Trilo great job on this! It makes me want to make some maps of my own. It could be neat to compare Trilobite orders to states, species so on and so forth. When you say below the surface what constitutes that? Is that literally needing to be split open (no surface scanning) or is that rock under the exposed formations? (Needing to come from quarry activities) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, A.C. said: There seem to be a few references of trilobites being found in N.C. The linked paper is the paper that misidentified a Precambrian Pteridinium as a trilobite. What are the other references for trilobites in NC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I can't find any N.C. trilobite fossils, because interestingly enough, North Carolina one Cambrian fossil, the only known one being Skolithos. Few trilos are known from SC in the same age deposits, so it's possible that there are some trilobite fossils hiding in NC somewhere. SC source: The Paleontology Portal (paleoportal.org) ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, IsaacTheFossilMan said: I can't find any N.C. trilobite fossils, because interestingly enough, North Carolina one Cambrian fossil, the only known one being Skolithos. Few trilos are known from SC in the same age deposits, so it's possible that there are some trilobite fossils hiding in NC somewhere. SC source: The Paleontology Portal (paleoportal.org) Possible I suppose but highly unlikely. The few trilobites from South Carolina came from a very localized area within a highly deformed schist formation, where the rock was not quite as deformed and metamorphosed. The equivalent formation in North Carolina is even more metamorphosed. The main South Carolina site was a very small roadcut, mostly exposed in a ditch on a very small road near Batesburg. I visited the site a few years ago and and found no trace of the roadcut remaining. Other localities in the area consisted of erratic boulders, not actual bedrock exposures. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 @piranha Thank you for compiling all these sources, I do look through them but I really should do that more often. Its an invaluable asset to this forum. 6 hours ago, Al Dente said: I’m not aware of trilobites being found in North Carolina. The Precambrian Pteridinium was originally misidentified as a trilobite. 1 hour ago, Al Dente said: The linked paper is the paper that misidentified a Precambrian Pteridinium as a trilobite. What are the other references for trilobites in NC? I did some additional searches and apparently my original search didn't go deep enough to be totally accurate. Looking back on the sources I found for NC, they only mention the misidentified Precambrian fossil or fossils near the border with North Carolina in Tennessee or South Carolina. I guess it should be marked as red then. Thank you for pointing that out and helping me yet again. “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, A.C. said: @Top Trilo great job on this! It makes me want to make some maps of my own. It could be neat to compare Trilobite orders to states, species so on and so forth. When you say below the surface what constitutes that? Is that literally needing to be split open (no surface scanning) or is that rock under the exposed formations? (Needing to come from quarry activities) Thank you, the "below the surface" vs on the surface was to just split the difference between Florida and North Dakota from the rest of the states where technically trilobites have been found but only thousands of feet below the surface. I didn't think that should qualify as "green" so I guess anything that's not from a drill core. “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 So here is the revised map, 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: Possible I suppose but highly unlikely. The few trilobites from South Carolina came from a very localized area within a highly deformed schist formation, where the rock was not quite as deformed and metamorphosed. The equivalent formation in North Carolina is even more metamorphosed. The main South Carolina site was a very small roadcut, mostly exposed in a ditch on a very small road near Batesburg. I visited the site a few years ago and and found no trace of the roadcut remaining. Other localities in the area consisted of erratic boulders, not actual bedrock exposures. Don Of course - there were definitely trilobites living in what is now NC, but, did they stand the test of time, is the real question... ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty_Crab Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 The sheer amount of green is informative. Taking a step further, it seems to suggest that generally, if Paleozoic rocks can be found on the surface, then remnants of trilobites can also be found. Is that correct? Since paleozoic rocks are widespread, so are trilobites. 19 hours ago, Top Trilo said: Does anyone see anything incorrect with the above information? Before I undertook this task I knew trilobites were widespread but not this widespread. Trilobites are everywhere. I thought I'd share with the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I believe a trilobite has been found in Florida. it was recovered from a drill core. This is a picture of the cast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Crusty_Crab said: The sheer amount of green is informative. Taking a step further, it seems to suggest that generally, if Paleozoic rocks can be found on the surface, then remnants of trilobites can also be found. Is that correct? Since paleozoic rocks are widespread, so are trilobites. Yes, I'd say that holds true, when I compare macrostrat.org with the Paleozoic restriction, it very closely matches with https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/ when you search for trilobite. I attached two images from the above sources of the lower 48 states. 7 minutes ago, RCFossils said: I believe a trilobite has been found in Florida. it was recovered from a drill core. This is a picture of the cast. Yes, you are correct, a trilobite has been found in Florida, but it was from far below the surface (from a drill core) which is why its yellow on the map and not red. Thank you for the image. 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 If anyone wanted to read into the FL trilo: Ref4489 | BioSTOR.org Alex's graph of FL is indeed correct! ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, IsaacTheFossilMan said: If anyone wanted to read into the FL trilo: Ref4489 | BioSTOR.org Alex's graph of FL is indeed correct! There also a TFF thread, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/28157-florida-trilobite/ “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 19 hours ago, Top Trilo said: There also a TFF thread, http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/28157-florida-trilobite/ Indeed, but the link Piranha put was broken... ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, IsaacTheFossilMan said: Indeed, but the link Piranha put was broken... At long last......the 10 year old link is broken no more! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Am thinking that some have been found in those chert pebbles along Delaware's shore. Very poor and not technically from Delaware but transported there. Don't make it green on my say so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Plax said: Am thinking that some have been found in those chert pebbles along Delaware's shore. Very poor and not technically from Delaware but transported there. Don't make it green on my say so! Thank you for this. I did some additional searches and believe you are correct. I found this thread, which contains a trilobite from Delaware. That deserves to make it yellow. Here is the updated map yet again. “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 The Ordovician Red River and Stony Mountain formations are present in the subsurface in the Williston Basin in North Dakota. Both formations outcrop to the north in Manitoba, and both contain fairly abundant trilobites. Equivalent formations in South Dakota and Wyoming also contain trilobites. It's highly likely that trilobites are also present in North Dakota, although I haven't found any reference yet to them being identified in well samples. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said: It's highly likely that trilobites are also present in North Dakota, although I haven't found any reference yet to them being identified in well samples. Brachymetopus sp. Thrasher, L.C. 1987 Macrofossils and Stratigraphic Subdivisions of the Bakken Formation (Devonian—Mississippian), Williston Basin, North Dakota. Fifth International Williston Basin Symposium: Regina, Saskatchewan. Geological Society Special Publication, 9:53-67 PDF LINK Hystricurus sp. – Praecoparia wibauxensis Lochman, C. 1966 Lower Ordovician (Arenig) Faunas From the Williston Basin, Montana and North Dakota. Journal of Paleontology, 40(3):512-548 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quarryman Dave Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 8:35 PM, Top Trilo said: I did lots of online searching on which states trilobites have and haven't been found in, and compiled this. Its not as straight forward as you might think. Green means trilobites have been found in that state on the surface and are native to that area. Yellow means technically a trilobite has been found there but was found below the surface or the rocks are not native to the state. Red means no trilobite has ever been found in the state except for when humans have transported them there. Green: Alaska, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming Yellow: Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota Red: Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii. No trilobites have been found in these states. The only trilobites in Florida and North Dakota came from cores that came from very far below the surface. Louisiana has trilobites from gravel that were transported via rivers from the Tennessee region. I have found very little references on trilobites coming from Oregon and Mississippi but have heard they exist. As far as Washington DC goes, I haven't seen anything that has said a trilobite has been found there but there are Paleozoic rocks at the surface according to macrostrat and trilobites have been found not too far away so I left it grey. Does anyone see anything incorrect with the above information? Before I undertook this task I knew trilobites were widespread but not this widespread. Trilobites are everywhere. I thought I'd share with the group. Is the rock layers deep in Florida paleozoic? Quarrycomber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Quarryman Dave said: Is the rock layers deep in Florida paleozoic? The link @piranha has in his original topic says it came "from core taken between 5154 and 5162 feet depth" 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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