Mochaccino Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Hello, I was wondering if these chinese Keichosaurus looked real? How much reconstruction/restoration if any, and how is their condition? Both slabs are about 9 inches long. First looks ok to me, second's body looks a bit weird. Thank you! 1. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Better pictures are needed, but the second one looks awful, to me. If the body is real, it has been wire brushed into something ridiculous looking. The first one looks like it may have skull issues, but again, better pictures would be needed. 1 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 The second one appears to have paint around the abdomen/thorax. The head of the first one looks odd and the slabs don't match at the crack, could be painted or composite, more pictures needed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochaccino Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Better pictures are needed, but the second one looks awful, to me. If the body is real, it has been wire brushed into something ridiculous looking. The first one looks like it may have skull issues, but again, better pictures would be needed. 8 minutes ago, JBkansas said: The second one appears to have paint around the abdomen/thorax. The head of the first one looks odd and the slabs don't match at the crack, could be painted or composite, more pictures needed. Thank you, I figured the second was off. I asked for a close-up of the first's skull, what do you think? Hard for me to tell but there are a bunch of criss-crossing lines across the skull, which is odd. Also good point on the matrix pieces not matching on either side of the crack at the neck. Edited July 26, 2022 by Mochaccino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleorunner Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Seeing the second makes my guts churn, it looks terrible. And from what I can see, the first one is decapitated from the middle of the neck up, it seems to me that there is a lot of paint there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Personally, I'd skip these. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 There's plenty of "better" (but still poor prep) keichosaurus out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochaccino Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Paleorunner said: Seeing the second makes my guts churn, it looks terrible. And from what I can see, the first one is decapitated from the middle of the neck up, it seems to me that there is a lot of paint there. 2 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Personally, I'd skip these. 2 hours ago, JBkansas said: There's plenty of "better" (but still poor prep) keichosaurus out there. Looks like either definitely isn't great, and a possibility of painting/compositing is a big no for me. Thank you all for your help, I'll pass on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meganeura Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 That second one looks like someone drew what they think a keich looks like from memory or something. Fossils? I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochaccino Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Meganeura said: That second one looks like someone drew what they think a keich looks like from memory or something. I agree it looks pretty bad. Let's just say I was being cautious and putting it mildly when I said its body looks "a bit weird". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackito Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I bought the first one. It was poorly packed and arrived in 4 pieces grinding on top of each other. Ughhh. I think it has parts that are real but it's heavily painted. The price was about the lowest I've seen these sell for. I'm bummed about it breaking but I'll probably glue it back together and keep it. Would a dental x-ray show how much is real vs painted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochaccino Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Jackito said: I bought the first one. It was poorly packed and arrived in 4 pieces grinding on top of each other. Ughhh. I think it has parts that are real but it's heavily painted. The price was about the lowest I've seen these sell for. I'm bummed about it breaking but I'll probably glue it back together and keep it. Would a dental x-ray show how much is real vs painted? Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that...if you mind, you could try to file for damaged item and try to have it returned. If you do want to keep it perhaps UV light/blacklight would reveal differences in painted/reconstructed regions? Though I think it depends on the exact material used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty_Crab Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 6:05 PM, Jackito said: I bought the first one. It was poorly packed and arrived in 4 pieces grinding on top of each other. Ughhh. I think it has parts that are real but it's heavily painted. The price was about the lowest I've seen these sell for. I'm bummed about it breaking but I'll probably glue it back together and keep it. Would a dental x-ray show how much is real vs painted? Could you take a picture of the cross section of all of the pieces where they were broken? If you have a clip on macro lens (or a microscope for that matter), that would be awesome. I'm very curious what a cross section of the bone segments look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 A 10X loupe will quickly reveal painted areas. No one is precise enough to paint those small bones without "going outside the lines" to some extent. 1 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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