georgegouvas Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 interesting and large. Please submit more pictures of each side and a yardstick. Also location and formation data would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Wood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Looks like it could be a cow or bison tibia to me, but it would be very helpful to get close up pictures of each end of the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 I get the impression of a horse radius, but we need a view of each end of the bone for a confident ID. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Didn't see the bone for the tree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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georgegouvas Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 only other photo is the interesting joint, found in N.Ca. in lassen county 20 inches long, Now the below bone was found with it, but not sure if it is a part of the whatever. It is about 13 inches wide at this time, i found some vertebra that go with it, but have not attached as of yet, i'll post soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegouvas Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 Also i forgot to mention that the bone is hollow, no marrow at all, which we figure is BIRD..i'll get photo of other joint today. And also found horn or tusk part, couple of days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 14 hours ago, georgegouvas said: only other photo is the interesting joint, found in N.Ca. in lassen county 20 inches long, Now the below bone was found with it, but not sure if it is a part of the whatever. It is about 13 inches wide at this time, i found some vertebra that go with it, but have not attached as of yet, i'll post soon. It is nothing strange...compare to a bison or cow sacrum. 1 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 The internal marrow of bones is a lot more fragile than the external cortical bone. So in places where bones can be damaged by wear and tear (such as by wind and sand abrasion or water damage), it's fairly common for bones of large mammals to be hollow. It does not automatically suggest bird. I think the size, shape, and thickness of your find are more consistent with large mammal than anything bird related. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 15 hours ago, georgegouvas said: We've had a mis-communication. We need end-on views of both ends of the bone . . . the articular surfaces. Like this: 2 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegouvas Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 i did find a fossil horse rib piece in same area and a friend found teeth..hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, georgegouvas said: i did find a fossil horse rib piece in same area and a friend found teeth..hmm George, can you take straight on, end photos like Harry showed above? The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegouvas Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 sorry about photos,,but i'm thinking bison,thanks to the lady from texas, who i forgot her name. the horn [ 16 in. ] and broken, was 300 ft down stream from above bone. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 @Harry Pristis George has posted photos of the ends. I thought bison maybe. It looks like he found some horns as well, but not sure if they're from the same location. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegouvas Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 i agree with Brandy on the leg bone, horn and vertebra section...Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 It's not bison, not horse, I just don't know what it is (though I still think it's a radius). It seems too robust to be a fibula. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 The 16 inch, broken horn core compares well with Bison latifrons. @Uncle Siphuncle 1 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 8 hours ago, JohnJ said: The 16 inch, broken horn core compares well with Bison latifrons. @Uncle Siphuncle It does compare in terms of furrows, rate of curvature, and overall aspect ratio. 2 1 Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 @Harry Pristis I'm not sure if this was found in California or Canada, but if Canada, could moose radius be a contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Brandy Cole said: @Harry Pristis I'm not sure if this was found in California or Canada, but if Canada, could moose radius be a contender? I considered this possibility. The closest I could come was this other cervid, Odocoileus virginianus. Judge for yourself. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 @georgegouvas You may want to compare it to Harry's diagram and also to the radius on this page: https://virtual.imnh.iri.isu.edu/Osteo/View/Moose/645 I could almost see it being a moose radius with the ulna broken off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 moose left humerus http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegouvas Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 9:10 AM, Brandy Cole said: @Harry Pristis I'm not sure if this was found in California or Canada, but if Canada, could moose radius be a contender? found in northern calif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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