Alston Gee Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Both of the teeth came from the White Limestone, Traditional Layer, Great Oolite Series, Bathonian of Oxfordshire, UK. Any thoughts on the identity of these teeth? Are they crocodile teeth or plesiosaur/pliosaur teeth? Edited September 6, 2022 by Alston Gee add img. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I've previously identified both of these as teleosaurid crocodile teeth for the fact that the teeth have carinae, which don't occur on plesiosaur teeth. 2 2 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossils-uk Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I agree with teleosaurid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alston Gee Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Here is a tooth from Goulmima, Morocco. The tooth could either be polycotylid plesiosaur or Brachauchenius lucasi. What’s your thoughts on it? @pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alston Gee Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alston Gee said: Here is a tooth from Goulmima, Morocco. The tooth could either be polycotylid plesiosaur or Brachauchenius lucasi. What’s your thoughts on it? @pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon This tooth is labeled as “Manemergus anguirostris”, but I can’t find adequate information about this species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Have a look at the below post, in which I illustrate the visual differences between the three types of plesiosaur teeth found in the Akrabou Formation - that is, brachauchenine pliosaur (Brachauchenius lucasi is an exclusively US-based species), the elasmosaur Libonectes atlasense, and polycotylid (both Manemergus anguirostris and Thililua longicollis): The tooth you present here is a bit tricky to identify due to the state it's in, as you'd use presence/absence of carinae and the nature of the striae to arrive at an ID. However, since the visible striations don't run the full length of the tooth - which they typically do in Moroccan brachauchenine pliosaurs - and the tooth is, moreover, more heavily compressed than most pliosaur teeth are, I'd say this is a polycotylid teeth. That having been said, I myself have also not yet been able to figure out how to differentiate between the teeth of Thililua longicollis and Manemergus anguirostris. So "polycotylidae indet." it will need to remain... 1 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alston Gee Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Thanks, the link you provided is really helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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