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possible marine mammal bone, Capitola CA


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Hello all,

 

decided to pop over to the Santa Cruz Coast in CA to see if anything notable was churned up by the recent storms we've had. A couple brachiopod fossils turned up, but this is what really caught my eye as I was perusing the beach. Fossil whale bones have been found in the area before and I'm wondering if that's what I have here. Very porous looking structure but definitely made of stone, with striations all going the same direction. Thanks in advance for ID help.

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@Boesse

Maybe our sea mammal fossil expert will weigh in.

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That is very likely a chunk of fossil whale bone.  I have found some pieces that have the same coloration from the Miocene age Monterey formation south of you in Santa Barbara County.

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This is a fragment of a baleen whale mandible - they look like gigantic ribs because they're curved and don't have any teeth.

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1 hour ago, Boesse said:

This is a fragment of a baleen whale mandible - they look like gigantic ribs because they're curved and don't have any teeth.

Awesome-out of curiosity how does one know its a mandible fragment? thanks

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22 hours ago, ecclector said:

Awesome-out of curiosity how does one know its a mandible fragment? thanks

From the cross section, to be specific - that little canal is one of the alveolar canals that exit through the mental foramina on the side of the mandible. These chunks are so common that I made this comic for my 'fossil explainer' series a couple years ago:

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51 minutes ago, Boesse said:

From the cross section, to be specific - that little canal is one of the alveolar canals that exit through the mental foramina on the side of the mandible. These chunks are so common that I made this comic for my 'fossil explainer' series a couple years ago:

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Bobby,

This is one of the few whale jaws I have (Kogiopsis).  Is that also "alveolar canals that exit through the mental foramina on the side of the mandible"?

 

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Apologies if I was unclear - the diagram was meant to illustrate a baleen whale mandible. I figured odontocete mandibles have big tooth sockets and are easy enough to ID.

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@Boesse -thanks for the additional ID helping tips-so its the hole that the nerve and veins passed through? Cool :) unfortunately your above comic doesn't seem to be loading, is there an internet link I can view it on instead?

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