cck Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Calling out to those familiar with flying creatures from the Miocene! These two were found on separate occasions in float from Miocene cliffs. Anyone recognize? Thanks in advance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 @Auspex Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Is the bottom one fossil? It looks more modern. Just by preservation, not morphology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 I would agree it ‘ looks ‘ modern, but it is fully mineralized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Here’s another one from the same formations.. maybe big bird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, cck said: Here’s another one from the same formations.. maybe big bird? 2 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The Royal British Columbia Museum maintains an online avian osteology website. Yes, they're moderne birds, but it's a starting point. I can PM the website, if desired. 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 Thank you sir! I’ll check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 It’s a great resource, but alas only has a falcons and such represented.. not seabirds as these bones most likely to be from… the lower is a humerus I’m pretty sure ( and maybe the upper as well? ) both are 62 mm in length, consistent in size with some of the grebes, but could be any other group of similar size…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 14 hours ago, cck said: maybe big bird? Large bird bones are known from that period. The details of the end could mean something to the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 Yes I would hope so! Width of the large end is 25mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 This humerus has been compared to that of Alca torda or an auk of some sort … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cck Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 Good match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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