Suzrusk Posted Wednesday at 03:13 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:13 AM Hello all, my dad acquired this item. He was told it was a petrified mushroom. Has anyone seen one of these or can confirm? thanks for your help Link to post Share on other sites
Fossildude19 Posted Wednesday at 03:37 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:37 AM It may be a mushroom, but probably not fossilized or mineralized. Could be just very old and very dehydrated/desiccated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DPS Ammonite Posted Wednesday at 04:30 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 AM This really looks like wood: a knot or a burl. Note growth rings on back side. 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Randyw Posted Wednesday at 04:35 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:35 AM (edited) My first thought was wood too…. Can we get some side views? Edited Wednesday at 04:36 AM by Randyw 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted Wednesday at 06:54 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:54 AM It looks like essentially a scab that has grown over the spot where an abscised limb became infected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mahnmut Posted Wednesday at 09:25 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:25 AM (edited) Hello Suzrusk and welcome to the forum! I think that is what I have heard called "tree cancer", although its not structured like cancer in animals. When a damaged tree gets infected by fungi, like Rockwood said, often in the cold and wet season the fungus grows faster than the tree, reaching the surface. In the warm and dry season, the tree tries to close the lesion by rapid growth, over and over again. That way these layered gnarly outgrowths are built. So its rather a lignified mushroom than a petrified one. Best Regards, J Edited Wednesday at 11:24 AM by Mahnmut spelling 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted Wednesday at 01:02 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:02 PM These growths are likely more resistant to rot than most wood cells are. I've seen the odd cone shape as a collar on the branch when much of the trunk has rotted away. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Suzrusk Posted Wednesday at 01:46 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:46 PM 8 hours ago, Randyw said: My first thought was wood too…. Can we get some side views? I can get side views it happen to be at our family cabin so it may be a few weeks before I can get one. It is really heavy Link to post Share on other sites
Mahnmut Posted Wednesday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:33 PM Thinking about the size of this I wonder if the layers we see arent the original tree rings, somehow eroded out instead of what I described above. I´d expect the side view to look somewhat bowl-shaped. Either way I am quite sure this is some interesting kind of wooden growth, not a fossil. Best Regards, J Link to post Share on other sites
Suzrusk Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM Thank you. It is bowl shaped. I will have side pictures posted in a few weeks Link to post Share on other sites
Auspex Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM 15 hours ago, Randyw said: My first thought was wood too…. I have to second this thought. Link to post Share on other sites
digit Posted Wednesday at 10:25 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:25 PM Take it from a wood turner--this is a nice example of a modern wood burl. They are usually formed by bacterial or viral infections and can form a wide variety of abnormal growth patterns in the grain pattern and growth ring structure. The darker inner section is either heartwood or rotting wood from an infection. https://www.google.com/search?q=wood+burl&tbm=isch https://northernwoodlands.org/articles/article/what_is_the_difference_between_sapwood_and_heartwood I can also see "checking" which is the cracking and splitting when wood dries too fast--something woodworkers try to avoid or minimize. Nice modern piece of woodworking and not a fossilized mushroom which are so rare as to be virtually nonexistent. Cheers. -Ken 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Suzrusk Posted Wednesday at 11:45 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:45 PM Hum… interesting. I am familiar with burls and it isn’t like that. To me it is similar in look to a shelf mushroom. Once I get a side view that may help Link to post Share on other sites
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digit Posted Thursday at 12:47 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:47 AM From the front I would agree that I get the 'wood ear' shelf fungus feel from it. From he back I see nothing but wood texture. Perhaps this piece of artistic carving was made to resemble such a fungus or was inspired by the same. Does not have the right texture for a fungus and like is heavier and more dense than you'd expect for a shelf fungus. Cheers. -Ken 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM I'm going for all of the above, with the exception of a mushroom. The dark center may well have had fungus growing in it, but I see no indication of a fruiting body. The tree produced normal, but perhaps accelerated, growth rings in response to the infection. This was eventually overgrown by the disturbed grain seen in burl. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Suzrusk Posted Thursday at 04:59 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:59 PM Is there a way to determine the age? Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted Thursday at 05:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:07 PM (edited) 8 minutes ago, Suzrusk said: Is there a way to determine the age? If it is indeed fossilized (stone), the best way would be to determine where it came from. Is it a fossil ? That's a different process. Just occurred to me. If it isn't it will burn. Edited Thursday at 05:08 PM by Rockwood Link to post Share on other sites
digit Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Does it feel like stone or wood? What sound do you hear if you tap it with something hard (like a screwdriver)? Does it give a dull thud like you would expect if you tapped a wooden bowl or ring as you would expect if you tapped a ceramic bowl? If it behaves like wood (which is what I would expect from the images I see--all I have to go on) then it is modern and its age would be counted in years and not millions of years. Cheers. -Ken Link to post Share on other sites
Suzrusk Posted Thursday at 08:38 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 08:38 PM Thanks Ken I will have to do that test when we head back to the cabin Link to post Share on other sites
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