hadrosauridae Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Yay! It's #FossilFriday once again! So if you are stuck at work and trying to look busy, here is the first part of my fossil hunt from last year in the Hell creek fm of South Dakota. 10 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikrogeophagus Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Awesome tooth and other finds! Keep up the vids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, EPIKLULSXDDDDD said: Awesome tooth and other finds! Keep up the vids! Thanks, best finds for last! (my avatar hint, hint) 1 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 PhD thesis... why are there so many redwood cones in the Hell Creek and so very few in the Lance? Next scene when you first point out a fossil, next to the big orange nodule, what fossil is that on the left edge off the screen? Nice ilium and croc jaw! In this writer's opinion, much cooler than a tyrannosaur tooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, jpc said: PhD thesis... why are there so many redwood cones in the Hell Creek and so very few in the Lance? The Dakotas were more forested and prettier with beautiful metasequoia trees Did not know that about the Lance. In fact at my Hadro bonebed in SD we have a section just dedicated to cones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Nice stuff and another excellent video. Bones are nice but the jaw and tooth are my favorite. What month were you out there? Now you have my juices running and cannot wait to get out this spring.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Troodon said: Nice stuff and another excellent video. Bones are nice but the jaw and tooth are my favorite. What month were you out there? Now you have my juices running and cannot wait to get out this spring.. I was there in August of last year. The jaw was a real shocker for me. When I exposed the tooth of it, I never imagined it was connected to the other end that found first. I really wish I could have taken home the ilium, but currently Walter is collecting all Thesc material for a research project. We gave up a nice Thesc vert from the same site last year (I think it was last year) 1 hour ago, jpc said: PhD thesis... why are there so many redwood cones in the Hell Creek and so very few in the Lance? Next scene when you first point out a fossil, next to the big orange nodule, what fossil is that on the left edge off the screen? Nice ilium and croc jaw! In this writer's opinion, much cooler than a tyrannosaur tooth. There was a second cone found while we were screening the debris pile. I don't think we missed it while digging, but it may have been missed by another guest working the same spot during the day or 2 before. I love all fossils, but I just can't give up the edge in favoring a beautiful, whole, shiny, tooth. I'm equal between Tyranosaurid or Triceratops, both are amazing when complete. Now, a murder banana, that wins the prize ever time! One of these days I'll find one out there, then sob like a child when I can't take it home. Edit to add- that side fossil turned out to be just a broken bit of something. I did film the excavation of it, in case it turned into something cool, but I cut it out of the video to save time. Edited February 25, 2023 by hadrosauridae "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Troodon said: The Dakotas were more forested and prettier with beautiful metasequoia trees Did not know that about the Lance. In fact at my Hadro bonebed in SD we have a section just dedicated to cones I have led trips in the Lance Fm for 30 years. At work we have about 3000 or more specimens form the Lance. One, I repeat one of those is a metasequoia cone. I have also spent a bit of time in the Hell Creek and cones turn up all the time up there. It would be interesting to get a pollen specialist into the beds to see if your theory holds from their perspective. I bet it would. Do you folks find palm fronds in the HC? I wonder about cones in more southerly and northerly Maastrichtian dinosaur beds. Edited February 25, 2023 by jpc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 Interesting. I had always read that the Lance and Hell creek were supposed to be the same deposit/climate/biota just named at different locations by different persons. It sounds as if the environ might have been very different. I have never heard of a frond coming out of the HC, but its such a loosely consolidated matrix that I can't see how it would be possible. There is a lot of wood (logs & branches) I have seen in the Tooth Draw quarry but I dont know if that is preservational bias as a crevasse splay type of deposit. There are large clay boulders that are densely packed with plant carbon residues. I wonder if those could be meticulously sectioned to search for identifiable plant species. At the least they should hold good amounts of pollen. "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I have seen palm fronds in hard sandstones, as carbon impressions in massive softer sandstones, and as carbon compressions in gray overbank mudsotnes. They are not uncommon in the Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 9 hours ago, jpc said: Do you folks find palm fronds in the HC? I wonder about cones in more southerly and northerly Maastrichtian dinosaur beds. I have found a few fronds but in general they appear rare. I've collected cones in Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phos_01 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Very nice video, enjoyed that living the dream unearthing these fossils for the first time. A dream for me to do one day. The matrix also looks so easy to work with. I would love to find a claw or tooth . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Phos_01 said: Very nice video, enjoyed that living the dream unearthing these fossils for the first time. A dream for me to do one day. The matrix also looks so easy to work with. I would love to find a claw or tooth . Lol, yes the loosely consolidated silt and sandstone are wonderful to work through. The problem is that they are also packed full of ironstone nodules which are NOT easy or fun to deal with. Many are the size of pebbles, but they are also up to several feet across. It took me 2 days to pedestal the ilium. Partly because of the real danger to nearby fossils if you rush through it just hacking out the trench, but mostly because of working down through the ironstone. 1 1 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, hadrosauridae said: The problem is that they are also packed full of ironstone nodules which are NOT easy or fun to deal with. We see concretions quite often and collecting is fun until you need a stick of dynamite to extract a bone. Very common occurrence that just takes time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex S. Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Nice video and beautiful finds. I just made the connection between you and your YouTube channel. I was watching your videos before I found the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared C Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Awesome video. If you don't mind my asking, what camera do you use? I have a small non-iphone camera that has trouble taking in anything at less than arms-length without confusing the sensors and blurring up “Not only is the universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think” -Werner Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Alex S. said: Nice video and beautiful finds. I just made the connection between you and your YouTube channel. I was watching your videos before I found the forum. Thank you very much! 1 hour ago, Jared C said: Awesome video. If you don't mind my asking, what camera do you use? I have a small non-iphone camera that has trouble taking in anything at less than arms-length without confusing the sensors and blurring up Thanks. This is one of my gopro cameras. I dont know which one this was, as I have a 4-black and a 7-black, and and sometimes it just depends on which one is already on the mount that I need for that shot. Some times I also use my android phone for quick shots also. 1 "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norki Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) On 2/24/2023 at 6:36 PM, jpc said: I wonder about cones in more southerly and northerly Maastrichtian dinosaur beds. I've seen a Metasequoia cone in the Frenchman formation, can't say whether or not they're common though. They do seem to be one of the most common leaf imprints though. Edited February 26, 2023 by Norki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilhunter21 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Awesome video and finds! I love the croc jaw. There are also some very frustrating areas to dig in the White River Fm. I have worked in an area that seemed like it was just one giant, hard concretion. Can't wait to see part two! Cheers an Shalom, -Micah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadrosauridae Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, fossilhunter21 said: Awesome video and finds! I love the croc jaw. There are also some very frustrating areas to dig in the White River Fm. I have worked in an area that seemed like it was just one giant, hard concretion. Can't wait to see part two! Cheers an Shalom, -Micah Thanks Micah! I haven't done any exploration or digging in the White River yet, but its on my short list of places to go. I'm sure every formation has places that can be dreams to dig, and others that are nightmares. "There is no shortage of fossils. There is only a shortage of paleontologists to study them." - Larry Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilhunter21 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, hadrosauridae said: Thanks Micah! I haven't done any exploration or digging in the White River yet, but its on my short list of places to go. I'm sure every formation has places that can be dreams to dig, and others that are nightmares. PM if you ever decide to plan a trip to the White River Fm. Yes... I am also sure that pretty much every formation can have tough areas. And for the most part, the White River here in, NE is pretty OK to work with. Cheers and Shalom, -Micah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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